Who's Right Bonus Episode

Hey, how's it going?

All right.

So this is just a very special probably going to get me in trouble episode of the Boomer Bunker, and I'll tell you why.

I went on Doug and Anthony's Patreon bonus show.

So this is behind their paywall.

I asked for permission, and Doug hasn't given me permission yet.

Hopefully, he's given me permission.

I don't know if that's going to happen or not, but we'll find out.

What I want to do is release this to you.

Now, I don't like releasing Patreon stuff, but the issue is, I was on the show with him, and Duchess came on later, and I think you guys will enjoy it.

It's only going to be on this feed, and I'm only going to put it on here for one week.

So this is a true bonus episode.

After one week, it disappears.

So I hope you enjoy it.

And I am a true fan of the who's Right podcast.

Go over to their Patreon.

It's like, I forget how much is.

I think it's like $55 for the year and whatever it is a month.

Go over, subscribe to their podcast.

Check out their YouTube channel.

You can go over to whose right podcast.com and check out all their stuff.

They got a lot of stuff over there.

They've got Arizona Bay coffee.

They've got candy.

They got all kinds of stuff over at that website.

So go over and check them out.

And, Doug, if you didn't want me to use this.

Sorry.

Not sorry.

All right, enjoy.

What's up?

What's going.

What's going on?

How are you doing?

I'm doing really well.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

Your chair is.

I'm not gonna freak out, but your chair is extra loud tonight.

All right, I'll.

I'll oil it up.

I meant to tell you that before we recorded, but I decided to wait until right after we went live.

Yeah, of course.

But I.

You know what?

I.

You asked specifically.

We should bring John on.

Sure.

I think he would be the ideal person to vet.

He.

I'm gonna bring John on.

Hi, John.

Gentlemen.

How you doing?

We are good.

So have you been listening to our show for.

Do you still listen to our show?

I'm very upset with you two.

Oh.

Because I sent in a Dear Flavvy.

Cool.

Do you still listen to our show?

Yes.

Okay, so the chair squeak.

Arc.

Okay.

Could you hear the chair squeak on your end?

I.

I'll be honest with you.

I did not hear it until you Mentioned it, and then he would do it.

So I didn't hear it.

I don't know if it was the way you processed the show or the audio came through.

I didn't hear it.

Okay, But I understand what you're saying.

So right now, tonight, have you heard it since you've been in the room now?

Okay, so then there's something.

For some reason, I'm hearing it amplified more than what you are hearing it.

Okay, so to Anthony's point, it's either my noise canceling headphones, whatever the.

Whatever the case may be, Right?

Fuck you, John.

You should have just taken my fucking side.

All right, I'm sorry.

Yes.

It bothers me.

And you know how I am about audio.

Okay, next thing.

So you sent in a Dear Flabby.

Yes.

Cool.

Thank you for that.

You didn't read it, but okay.

How do you know that?

How do you know I've even gotten to it?

How many do you have?

It was weeks ago.

Okay.

Yeah, we're like eight months behind.

We're that popular.

Well, it's going to be.

There's no sense of reading now we're going to talk about it because my Dear Flabby was Dear Flabby.

I listened to this podcast where the one podcaster moans about the other podcaster's chair squeaking and it's taking away from the show.

I understand it can be a little annoying, but can we please stop talking about it?

We did.

We actually did that.

How did I not hear it?

All right, well, then I apologize.

Did we do that one?

Now I'm back on Anthony's side.

I don't really care if the chair squeaks.

Jesus Christ.

So, John, what have you been up to?

Too much.

I'm obsessing over everything that I do right now.

And now I think I want to take a break from all the nonsense that I get upset about.

That's probably a good idea.

Yes.

What are you getting upset about?

Well, like I said, we just went through that whole election thing, and then, I don't know, I just find it funny to watch once.

I love the losers.

I love it when losers melt down.

It's my funniest thing to watch is when I watch them just melt down and lose their.

I just enjoy it.

It's so fun.

Just because.

Isn't it fun just to watch people lose their mind and.

And yell and scream?

I mean, I think you prove that, right?

Pretty much, yes.

People, I.

I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm just trying to figure out the Like, I don't know psychology or whatever behind it.

I don't know what it is, but it's a weird thing to like.

Let me ask you this.

Has Anthony ever yelled at Doug?

I know Doug yells at Anthony, but has Anthony ever gotten so mad that he actually yelled back at Doug?

I don't think I've ever heard you get mad and yell.

Yes.

He doesn't.

He doesn't abuse me like that on.

On the show.

He does it afterwards.

Well, that's no fun.

Why would you do that?

I want to hear it on the show.

I'm not an abusive person.

I don't know.

Have I ever.

No, you just.

When.

When it.

When Anthony gets really pissed off, he just shuts down.

Yes.

I don't.

I'm not an.

I'm not an overtly, like, aggressive, outwardly person.

When I'm mad, I just.

He's a peace Nick.

In other words, something.

Yeah, he's a peacenik.

In other words, he just shuts down and doesn't say anything and retreats.

Where Doug and I.

We attack.

Yes and no.

Yes.

I don't attack.

Yes.

You're doing it now.

I stand my position.

You're doing it now.

No, I don't attack.

That's not standing your position.

Yes, it is.

I'm standing my.

I'm defending my position that I don't attack.

But you do, though, by attacking.

I haven't attacked yet.

You son of a bitch.

You're doing it now.

You're baiting me into it and you're falling for it.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

So, no, to.

To your point, Anthony does not.

When he has screamed, it's always been for effect, not out of anger.

Right.

I.

I have an innate understanding that I am not, like.

I mean, intimidating.

I'm not an intimidating person.

So it's like if even in my own mind, if I'm angry and I start yelling, I feel ridiculous because I know that I'm not intimidated.

I just know that I'm not.

I'm not an intimidating person.

I get it.

Okay.

Can we role play?

Oh, boy.

Yeah, sure.

I.

I want to know what you sound like.

I've never thought about it.

I don't know what you sound like when you get angry because you get quiet.

You.

You cross your arms and you put your head down and you look at the floor.

I.

I don't know about all that, but.

Can I ask a question?

Yes.

What has.

What's the thing that Doug did while you were recording that made you the most angry?

I don't Know, I.

It's not.

I don't know.

Not what Doug does.

It's what Doug says.

Right, okay.

What Doug says.

Yeah.

It's not.

It's a pattern of behavior.

It's systemic.

Right.

That's.

I don't.

I don't have a specific example, so.

I can tell you the maddest.

And it wasn't the show related, but I can tell you the maddest he's ever gotten at me.

Perfect.

It was when I told you to move my.

From my desk and move it to my new desk.

Yeah.

That was ridiculous.

And we.

I mean, we just rehashed that on a recent episode, so I don't want to get into the whole thing again.

Right, but what.

How.

How did you resolve the situation?

You put your hands in your pockets, you look down at the tile.

You started counting tiles on your way out the door.

Did he move your desk?

No, of course not.

So there was a.

There was.

In my mind.

I have no idea if this is true or not, but the job that I had was working for you.

No, I don't want to.

Rehab.

We just.

We just talked about it.

No, no, I know, I know.

I'm just saying.

I'm setting it up.

What I'm saying.

So there was a chance in my mind that if I didn't do what you were asking, I would lose this job that I really enjoyed doing.

Right.

Whether or not that's true, I have no idea.

But there was.

I'm losing this job, I guess there's zero chance that I'm moving your.

Right.

And that is.

And that is your issue with authority.

Yeah.

And that's why.

That's what's held you back your entire life.

And it's holding you back now.

Yeah, that's fine.

Passive aggressive.

No.

Passive.

No aggressive.

No.

It has nothing to do with passive aggressive.

It has to do with his problem with authority.

Yes.

In.

In the position that we were in, I was in a position of authority over him, but not like his boss.

Okay?

Yeah, but I was in a position of authority.

He was my or my helper.

Right, Right.

Okay, so Egyptian guy.

I'm not gonna deal with you right now.

Jesus.

I got distracted.

Hold on.

I gotta fix that.

Okay, so what you just heard Anthony say was he had a job that he enjoyed doing.

He enjoyed the project for the most part.

He enjoyed the people he was working with.

Yes.

And in this one situation, the guy that was giving him his direction asked him to do something or probably told him to do something.

And in that moment, he made A decision.

I'm going to give up this job that I like because this guy is telling me to do something that I don't want to do.

Right.

It's beneath me, I know.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

You're both wrong.

It's not that this guy is telling me to do something I don't want to do.

And it's not that it's beneath me.

It's that in that moment, the way that you communicated this was, you are my.

And no.

Well, okay.

I guess we're done then.

That was.

And that's what I just said, because I told you to do something.

Right.

So Anthony's one of those guys where it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

No, I don't.

I don't blame him.

I.

He made the right call.

Yeah.

Because if I would have.

If he would have just said okay, I would have had him upstairs wiping my ass.

Right.

Right.

As I.

I'm not intimidating, but I'm also not.

Dude, I'm not your.

Like, I guess I'm not doing this job anymore, if that's what it comes to.

You know what I mean?

But that.

That is still a fault of yours.

How?

Because what you should have done in the moment is said.

Listen, there's no reason for you to talk to me the way you're talking to me.

If you need help moving the shit, I'll be happy to help.

But if you're going to sit here and tell me to do it because you think you're on some kind of fucking power trip, then I'll just go back and fucking lathe stuff.

If the three of us were in prison, who would be getting raped?

You.

Me?

Yeah.

Look at me.

Nobody wants to rape me.

You don't think I could stand my ground and fight off a rapist?

No.

No.

Damn.

I'm losing my.

I'm losing my.

I don't know, whatever you would call it.

I'm losing my toughness, I guess.

I, I.

You come off as, like more of a.

Doug comes off as a aggressive, angry.

You come off as like a sort of like a fake aggressive, kind of.

Not really all that aggressive.

Aggressive.

I don't know how to explain it.

Damn.

Damn.

I wanted to be more aggressive.

I.

I would be happy to put on a seminar to teach you both how to act like men.

Okay.

I'm interested.

I can't wait.

Perfect.

I'll sign me up.

I'll have to work on it.

Okay.

I'm gonna have to ask around.

I have to get a real man to show me how to show you guys how to be real men.

I can tell you what not to do.

Okay?

Okay, perfect.

If somebody starts yelling at you, you don't put your head down and put your hands in your pockets and shuffle out of the room, what would you do?

Punch him in the head.

Nobody talks to me like that.

John, if you.

Okay.

I want you to think of 25 year old John, okay?

You're in a bar and some guy walks up and starts yelling at you, right?

He doesn't touch you, he doesn't lay a hand on you, but he gets in your face and he starts pointing at you and he's saying he's going to kick your ass.

What do you do?

I punch him, right?

Yes.

As soon as he puts his finger up, I hit him.

As soon as he puts his finger out.

In your face up.

Yeah.

As soon as he's.

As soon as he's close.

As soon as he's within striking business, I punch him as hard as I can.

So stupid, right?

But that's okay.

You just failed.

You just failed.

What?

The man thing.

It's the dumbest ever.

Okay?

Do you want to be a man or not?

Apparently not.

Okay, well, then.

Then that segment's over.

We can move on to something else.

The only way to be a man is to punch another man in the face.

I just told this story.

No, no, no, no.

Hold on.

You skipped the important part.

That guy was trying to point your manhood out.

He was trying to take your manhood away.

Exactly.

And you allowed him.

Exactly.

I didn't.

You did.

I didn't allow him.

You.

You did.

Look.

Oh, there goes my manhood.

You pointed it away.

All right, here's a real scenario.

You're in a bar with your date.

Okay?

You're.

You're up at the bar.

Yeah.

And a guy slides in between you and your.

Your date and starts talking to her.

And then she says, I'm sorry, I'm.

I'm with my boyfriend.

Yeah.

And he turns around and goes, that's not much of a boyfriend.

What do you do?

You know he's right.

Is that what you say, Doug?

I don't think that's what you say.

Dad, what are you doing here?

Dad, what are you doing here?

It seems to me like the only answer that you two ever have is, I don't know, punch him in the face.

Like that's.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

What do you do?

I'm not punching him in the face.

Okay.

What do you Do I tell him.

To get out of here?

I don't know.

I have here.

Scram.

Get the out of here, man.

What the you doing?

Scram.

What did you, what would.

How many beers have I had?

5.

Have I done any shots?

No, you're still, you're still in control.

God, after five beers, half a sip and half a sip, you are a pussy.

I, I don't think I would punch him.

I, I, I know that there would be contact.

It would probably be me just grabbing the person and flinging them.

Right.

And then seeing what happened from there.

See, I grabbed the back of the hair and I banged his head off the bar twice and then kicked his feet out from under him.

And then the bouncers got there.

See, that's the nice thing.

You just got to hold your own until the bouncers get there.

And then they take him and then.

They throw you all out.

Ah.

And then you're out in the street with this guy and then you fight him out.

That's okay.

He's got a hell of a headache.

But I guess now in my elder age, I'm just a pussy.

I don't know, getting raped in prison.

Okay, okay.

And, John, this is why I said what I said, because you won, you, whatever you did when you were 25 carries nothing.

Now, I know that's the hardest part, but it feels that way.

Like, I watched that Tyson Jake Paul fight.

Boom.

And I felt so bad for Mike.

Tyson, I had this banner made.

And you hit both things John's topics for when he comes on Trump and Tyson.

You knocked off the Trump thing right off the bat by talking about the election.

Good job.

I had a feeling that's why you brought me on.

So I figured I would lead you down the path.

I would, I would go down the path.

I did that.

I brought you on because Anthony said, hey, John was in the chat.

You want to bring him on the chat?

Yeah.

Okay.

We hadn't talked to you in a while.

Just seeing what was up.

Yes.

So is it just that you are okay?

Do you think that you can hold your own if you went, I don't know, if you go out to the bars or whatever anymore.

Not now.

I can't.

I can't now.

I used to be able.

I can't now.

It's, you know, like I said, that's why I was so, so hard to watch that Tyson fight last night or the other night, because I, you know, I watched him just dismantle men, and that's what I wanted to see him do.

Although I do believe the fight was fixed, and I do believe that Tyson would have been able.

Still being able to knock him out, but to watch him and.

Because, you know the Tyson that he wants to be and you know the Tyson he trained for, it's just that he went in there, he just didn't have it anymore.

And that's sad.

It's sad as you get older.

Hold on.

You can't have.

You're.

You're using both sides of the coin.

Yes.

Was it fixed and he could have demolished Jake Paul, or did he not have it anymore?

Because you just said it was both.

Well, okay.

When I first watched it, I thought that, you know, he was just tired and he couldn't do it anymore.

But then I watched it a second time, and there was a lot of times where he had opened up and his hand was.

And Jake had opened up, and he could have just tore his head off, and he didn't do it.

He didn't use.

He didn't punch, and that's just not Tyson.

So I do think it was fixed.

So I watched you and Duchess talk about this, and I wanted to come on your show and weigh in because both of you were speaking out of.

I understand the name of your show is Boomer Bunker.

I get it.

So for me to say you guys sounded like Boomers would be a statement.

Okay.

But you were speaking out of ignorance 100% in everything that you were saying.

Duchess specifically talking about the Paul brothers or whatever, and Jake Paul not.

Or Logan Paul not having any money or talent, which is why he was spraying his brother.

And, like, they are both phenomenal successes.

Jake Paul is the promoter that put this fight together.

Who gives a.

If it was fixed, like, to fight.

I want to fight.

I don't want to fix.

Then go fight.

It's wrestling.

Then it's okay.

But it's not.

It's not.

Is what.

It's not what they.

It's not what they put it.

They didn't promote it as a wrestling match.

They didn't promote it as an exhibition.

What?

Well, that's what I wanted to say.

But that's what I'm saying.

So fucking what?

You didn't pay anything for it.

Okay, you say that, but I pay for Netflix.

And you signed up for this fight, right?

Well, no, I mean, it wasn't.

Oh, if I'd have paid for.

If I had to paid, like, $25 or $50 or whatever they would have said for pay per View and watch that thing, I would have been pissed.

So you then you should.

Then you should have been.

Then you would be an idiot.

Okay, if, if Don King, if you go back 30 years and don King was the promoter for a fight as well as one of the fighters.

Okay.

Would you be surprised if there was a fixed.

Would I be surprised?

No.

Okay, you're right.

I wouldn't be surprised.

But there's betting on it.

Okay, so there.

If there's betting on this.

If there's betting on it, then it should not be fixed.

There's betting on wrestling.

I was with you.

Are you kidding me?

Who wouldn't knit with bets on wrestling?

Okay, I'm sorry.

I was with you, John, up until you.

You were making an argument that you wanted a fair fight, you wanted to fight, whatever, and then you, Doug, came in with an argument and then you're like, oh, but there was betting.

So you're just kind of moving the goalposts, you know what I mean?

Like, well.

Okay, so my real, my theory is, or my position is that don't tell me it's going to be a boxing match.

And you watch Tyson train for as long as he trained and he looked like a monster.

And then he comes in and he fights for one round and he just dances around and they hold each other like they're at a prison dance.

I'm sorry, I just.

Don't shut it off and move on with your life is what I'm saying.

I was as excited as you were about watching another Tyson fight.

Right.

I had the same thought, but it was a dog shit fight.

You could tell after that first clinch, Tyson came out like old Tyson.

Yes.

And then there was that clinch.

And I'm sure Jake Paul said, what the fuck are you doing?

Right?

And then after that, Tyson started biting his glove and it was just all downhill from there.

And it's like, oh, okay, so that's what this is.

I'm going to shut this off.

Did you shut it off?

Did you watch the whole thing?

I.

I watched it until the, the final bell.

I didn't wait around to see the.

Decision, but that's exactly what I did, too.

I turned it off after because I knew what was going to happen.

But.

But my point is, who gives a.

Like, you should have known going into it.

The promoter is a fighter, is one of the fighters.

He was doing everything he could to drum up business.

Eventually that business model is, it's not going to work anymore.

Either he's going to have somebody that won't follow the script, or there'd just be no interest.

All right, So I Can't think of the words because I'm stupid.

There's the protagonist and then there's the other guy.

Antagonist.

Okay, So I say Jake.

Almost the same fucking word.

Right?

The other word.

There's a pro and ag.

Tennis and.

And Jake Paul was the protagonist.

Right.

That's the bully.

That's the bad guy.

Right.

Am.

I mean, he was the guy that was antagonizing everybody.

Okay.

That's what he was.

All right.

He came out in the car and they're spraying and it just.

And you just wanted to see Mike Tyson come out there and punch a lisp into him.

Yeah, that's the whole.

They set this up to make you want that so that people.

I wanted it and I was disappointed.

They did a good job and I.

Don'T like being disappointed.

Right.

Are you okay?

Are you disappointed because you felt lied to?

Yes.

I never watched a boxing match in my life and I saw through it before it even started.

You watch boxing.

How did you not see through it?

That's on you that you felt disappointed.

That's on you that you didn't see through it.

So you brought me on here to make me feel like an asshole tonight.

I mean.

Yes, you're the one that brought it up.

Dude, I don't give a fuck about boxing.

I so.

I know.

And the other thing, the other problem, John, that you should feel like an asshole for is that you were trying to live vicariously through another man.

No, I was not.

That's not true.

Bullshit.

That's how you started this fucking episode, talking about how, yes, I'm older, I can't hold my own anymore.

But with the Tyson fight and then watching him destroy people and I wanted to watch.

It was.

It was.

Your youth was tied to a black man.

That's not true.

That's unfortunate.

That's not true.

And if.

Keep that up, I'm going to make my chair sque.

Listen, that was pretty funny.

This Jake Paul has been dancing around fighting nobodies.

And I just figured that.

Again with the bullshit.

Go through the list of people that.

He fought and you're calling them nobody.

I'd be honest with you.

I thought that like somewhere in the, like after round one or round two, something would snap at Tyson and he would treat him like he treated his ex wife and just knock the out of him.

And I'm not going to let you gloss over it.

Name five people that Jake Paul's fought.

No.

I can't.

It's cool.

I can't either.

Jon, you're doing.

You Know what?

First of all, I don't have a memory.

I couldn't even.

I couldn't even tell you.

Doing.

The thing that.

That annoys me about people like you is you're just Me.

You're regurgitating talking points.

And that's what pissed me off about watching you and Duchess talk about it, because you were both just regurgitating other people's thoughts.

No, they were my thoughts.

They were not.

Other people had the same thoughts as mine.

Doesn't mean I'm regurgitated.

They were my thoughts.

How dare you.

So you're telling you.

You're telling me that your thoughts were.

Jake Paul has fought a long list of nobodies without knowing any of the people that he's fought.

Yeah, I can't think.

Listen, Doug, I can't remember shit, all right?

I can't help that, okay?

But if you gave me a list of who he fought, I would tell you which ones were the nobodies.

It's not my fault.

I don't have a memory anymore.

That's the truth.

I don't have a memory anymore, so I can't remember.

One of them was named Roy.

Roy Jones Jr.

There we go.

There's one.

I don't even watch boxing.

And I've heard of that guy.

He must be.

See, he must be good.

Okay.

And he fought it when he was like 35.

The guy used a cane to get in a ring.

And Jake.

No, that's the other Paul, wasn't it?

The other which was the other one Paul fought.

It's hard to tell them apart, to be honest with you.

So, like, which one was banging the chick that got banned from baseball who has the really nice rack, and she has that magazine that is like a nudie magazine?

I don't know what the you're talking about.

I have no idea.

And I'm the dumb one.

Jose.

So, anyhow, what's her name?

Pete Rose.

Pete Rose.

Yes.

Her name is something Rose.

It doesn't.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't.

So you can go down the list of all the people that Jake Paul has fought.

Nate Diaz.

Okay, so he's a nobody.

Do you.

Anthony, do you know Nate Diaz?

No.

No, he's a nobody.

Go ahead.

Who else?

So the bars, if I know who they are.

That's correct.

Yes, for my argument right now, because.

I know nothing about boxing.

So Nate Diaz is an MMA MMA fighter.

Okay.

Okay.

Anderson Silva.

I don't know who he is.

Yeah, he's a nobody.

Okay, so here's.

Here's the problem.

Somebody that doesn't ever watch boxing, being John or and or Anthony sees a list of fighters and says, well, I've never heard of them, so they're nobodies.

And to my point earlier, that just means that you were regurgitating other people's talking points.

I just wanted to see him not knock out J.

Cole.

What about, I wanted to see him knock him out.

That's fine.

So did everybody else.

That's why so many people watched.

Right.

And why did we get that that's what we wanted.

Why?

Why do you think that Jake Paul came out to the song that he came out to?

Because everybody wanted Tyson to come out to that song.

What was the song like?

I don't remember.

In the Air Tonight.

I thought it was ymca.

Oh, no, that was Trump.

I'm sorry.

Same.

Don't, don't.

Just don't.

I just want to tell you not to do that when you do things like that.

Just don't.

Okay, So I don't know.

Obviously neither one of you have any interest in becoming a man, so we're not going to do that.

Sick.

How dare you.

But I would like to offer this opportunity, Anthony, for you to offer John suggestions on how to be a better podcaster.

Oh, I'm all over this.

Come on, let's do it.

Please, hold on, let me get through this before.

Let me get a pencil on paper.

I want to write this down.

Come on.

Here we go.

What do I got to do better?

Oh, God, please.

I'm ready.

All right, so it depends on what you want out of podcasting.

What is it that you would like to get out of podcasting, John?

I just want something to do so I don't have to watch TV one or two nights a week.

That's a stupid way to look at it.

You're never going to get rich that way.

I don't want to get rich.

I do everything not to get rich at podcasting.

Me too.

See?

Okay, so if that's your only goal, then you're succeeding, then you don't need any pointers.

That's right.

That's kind of what I was thinking.

There you go.

But I don't fucking believe you.

I think that that is sour grapes.

Okay, so that means yes, if some.

Some company called you up and said, hey, I've been checking out your show and I would like you to play this little 30 second ad at the beginning for whatever the fuck it is, and we'll pay you a thousand dollars an episode, you're going to turn it down?

No.

Does that make me successful?

That just makes them stupid.

Now, I would play it.

Of course I would play it.

Why?

It has no impact on your ability to watch TV or not.

They're going to give me a thousand dollars.

What does.

If I cannot watch TV and get $1,000, how does that hurt me?

It's a win win.

Of course I'm going to play the thousand dollar commercial.

What's the commercial for?

TVs?

I don't fucking know.

It doesn't matter.

TVs.

Oh, geez.

Okay.

So when I first started podcasting, what I wanted to do, you know, I wanted it to be a bigger show.

Now I use it to.

Now that I'm retired, I use it to just keep busy and not.

And that's what I use it for.

And I enjoy doing it.

It's like, why do you go deer hunting?

Do you really want to kill a deer?

Yes.

All right.

But, you know, it's just a.

It's a hobby that I have now.

I go on and I talk.

I talk to, like, I talk to a hundred people.

It's really nothing like deer hunting.

Right.

Can I just take a side tangent right now?

So I was the other day, I'm looking through TikTok, and TikTok has a live of a guy sitting there in a tree stand, and you can sit there with him in his tree stand, live.

And I'm like, I wouldn't sit in a tree stand if I had.

If I was.

Why would I do this?

Like, it's the dumbest thing to have someone sitting there with our live TikTok of him hunting.

Because most of it is all it's doing is waiting.

But getting back to the podcasting thing, right?

I just, you know, I just want to come in and do what I do, and if people like it, that's great.

And if people don't like it, that's fine.

So I think what your answer could have been is, I want to have problem.

I'm wrong about what I want.

I'm sorry.

Tell me what I want.

Tell me what I want.

What I really, really want.

Okay, stop doing that.

And then I'm sorry.

You want to have fun?

Yes, that's why I came here.

Okay.

So I want to have fun.

Like, that's why Anthony and I do it, because we want to have fun.

All right?

And we want to have fun.

We're really squeezing as much money out of these people as possible.

Yeah.

It just happens that we are so good.

See, there's a throw money at Us.

Okay?

But here's the difference.

I don't.

I don't believe what I do.

And what you do is really worthy of people giving me money.

But I have shame and you have none.

So in other words, you don't have any shame.

You're like, okay, I'll put this out here.

It's not really entertaining.

It's okay.

I have a bunch of retards that listen to me and throw money at me, and I'm okay with that.

No, no more.

Tell me more, please.

This is wonderful.

This is like what jealousy sounds like in English.

We do the same thing.

I just can't.

I just can't get myself to ask for money for it.

Hey, John, hold on.

Are you still a patron?

Yeah.

Okay, John, why do you listen to our show every week?

I like you, too, okay?

No, no, no, no.

Why do you listen to our show every week?

I like you, too, and I listen to you because I find you entertaining.

I'm a retard.

I know where you're going.

I'll just take you there.

I've been listening to you guys before you even made a dime.

All right?

And we've been going through this.

And the reason why did I.

I signed up because something was going to happen.

Oh.

There was going to be some kind of trial that I was.

And it was going to be something I couldn't watch.

So I paid $50 so I could watch a trial, okay.

For the year.

And then Doug says, oh, I'd have gave it to you for nothing.

Doug never gives me anything for nothing.

Never once.

So I figured if I was going to watch.

How many times have I thanked you for that 800 bucks?

Is that I haven't charged you for them.

Shout outs.

Oh, my God.

I forgot about that.

Yeah.

Oh.

Anyway, so I think.

Oh, here's irresponsible.

No, no, no, no.

I'm talking.

I gotta say this.

Irresponsible.

I have to say this before you go.

Stop, stop.

I have to say this.

No, I've got to defend our fucking audience.

That 800 debt has been paid for.

You don't have to worry about it anymore.

You don't have to be nice to me anymore.

Because of that.

Because of that.

Don't do that.

Fuck.

Nice.

Okay, so I think you need to apologize to our audience.

No.

Yes.

Because some of your retards come over into my retard area and I have to put up with them like Wing Wong.

Okay?

No, no, no, no, no.

What you said was our shows are identical and they're not entertaining.

Right.

And then you follow that up by saying, I watch your show every week because it's entertaining.

Well, yes, to me.

Okay, so with that being said, it has nothing to do with shame.

It's how you present it.

So I decided a long time ago that I was going to be transparent.

It's not about not having shame.

It's about being transparent.

Okay, so, like, Anthony, if you want to finish our label conversation about the candy, we can do that right now.

I don't give a.

Right.

So that was a sort of a joint decision.

It was like, whatever we do, the audience is going to know 99% of it.

Like, it's.

It's maybe even sometimes 100%, maybe even 110%.

They know too much sometimes.

It's just.

There is no behind the scenes, really.

It's.

It's.

It's.

They know who we are.

Right.

I was going to get honest here, but I don't think you guys would want me to be honest here.

No.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

What else would we want?

No.

Is it bad?

If it's bad, I don't want to hear it.

No.

I think when I started.

I think when I started this, I started it all wrong.

I think I went at.

At it making.

Making too many enemies, where I would defend you guys far, you know, for stuff that other people would say, and then I would get in a fight with them.

And you're like, fuck it.

Just let them say what they want to say.

I should have had that attitude, right?

And I would have carried me further.

I don't even know what you're talking about.

Well, one of the biggest things that happened with.

With me was that I got in a fight with Carl over you guys.

You guys sent your show in.

Carl destroyed your show.

I went hard after him because I didn't like the way he talked about you guys.

I didn't get it.

So I went hard after him.

And then now I'm gonna fight with Carl.

And Doug's a co host on who owns this podcast.

That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever done, to be honest, with sticking up for you guys.

Cause he was right about everything he said.

But I didn't like the fact that he was talking about my friends that way.

But that was my next question was, did he say anything wrong?

No, but, you know, I didn't like that he was talking about my friends that way.

So stupid.

You got.

You got to look at it objectively.

Nothing that he said was wrong.

Yeah, but you.

At the time, I Thought we were friends.

It's irrelevant.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

You're stupid.

I told you I was stupid.

Aside from that.

It's a roast show.

I'm the one that sent the show in, asking him to roast it.

I thought he was too tough on you guys, but he wasn't wrong.

He could have said it nicely.

How is he too t.

If you send in a show and they roast it and he say you were too tough, you're not cut out for this shit.

Like, what?

Why?

There's no two.

There is no too tough.

There's no such thing as too tough.

That doesn't make any sense.

I just told you I was going to be honest.

I shouldn't have done that.

Right.

I shouldn't have done that.

I should have just.

I should have just.

I should have just got there.

I should have laughed it at you guys.

With him.

Yes, with us.

With us.

We laugh too, Right?

I know.

I mean, I'm not gonna tell you that.

It wasn't like, oh, God, that sucks to hear somebody.

You guys were like.

You guys were just starting out.

You were like, my children.

And somebody attacked my children.

And I went after them, even though my kid was.

Exactly.

Whatever they said we did, we did it at more.

Okay.

So if anything, you could have gotten pissed off at him that the episode he chose to review was the one I decided to take a.

In the middle of.

I don't remember why.

It was.

Yeah.

So long ago.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

That's funny.

As you took a.

In the middle of the episode.

That's great.

How is that not exactly what we do and that.

Yeah.

I just didn't understand your brand of humor, to be quite honest with you.

I don't think you do still.

Sometimes I.

You're right.

Sometimes I'm like, why are they.

Sometimes you do things.

And I'm not crazy, but I don't think they're funny.

But some of the times you do things that are funny.

Okay.

Again, just like anything else that you take the good and the bad.

So I would like to offer you this opportunity that we offered to somebody recently.

Help.

What?

I'm not sure where you're going.

Okay.

Put.

Put the pieces together.

Follow.

Follow what I just said.

Yeah.

And I'm not speaking in code.

I'm trying to coach you to be a better co host.

Okay.

Offered somebody else something that he wants to offer me.

What could.

They were just in a conversation with John about the state of our show.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I said, john, I would like to offer you this opportunity that we just offered to somebody else.

So we just offered.

You want to.

I love it when the lights go on.

Go ahead.

No, no, no, no.

Yeah, yeah, I got it now.

So you want to give us.

But hold on.

But now follow along, because I'm struggling to think of the person.

Who it was, and I should know who it was.

So then when I hesitate, you jump in.

So you.

Listen, John, I'm.

I thought you were asking.

I'm having a hard time following your train of thought here.

It's because you're not paying attention.

How can this not be funny?

I don't think that's what it is, John.

So I'm going to offer you the same opportunity that we offered to Ulysses.

Thank you, Anthony, for having my back in this.

You got it.

So you said something that triggered this thought in my head.

You said, we do some things that you don't find funny or you don't agree with.

Whatever.

I'd like to know a couple of things that.

If you could.

If you were the program director for who's right, what would you tell us?

Like, give us some critical feedback so we can make the show better now.

Well, I'm not going to get.

I'm not going to.

What do I know?

You guys have a successful podcast.

You do.

You have.

You do three or four things.

I don't know.

You do everything.

Listen, your audio quality is a lot better than it is.

You get the shows out on time.

You're doing three or four.

You guys do an amazing job.

And I'm.

I'm being serious.

You do an amazing job.

And your.

Your brand of humor and what you guys are doing is working.

I wouldn't change a thing because I wouldn't even know what.

How to tell you to change it to make it better.

So.

But you.

You're doing us a disservice.

So we're going to do that.

We're going to do this thing where we.

We want feedback from other.

It doesn't mean we're going to change whatever they say.

No, But.

But if there's an overwhelming thing, like, for instance, a lot of feedback came in saying that I was focused too much on the chair.

Drop it.

It's annoying.

That was true.

Yeah.

Right.

And.

And that's why I don't yell at him about his stupid squeaky chair that he refuses to.

That he refuses to fix.

So I.

I'm asking you as a friend.

I.

I'm not saying that we're even going to do anything about it, but I want to know your point of view.

What are some things that you don't like about the show?

There has to be something.

Okay, here's one today.

Shut the fuck up.

I don't.

There's obviously chat going on and there's a lot of chat going and you never address the chat unless somebody pays for it, even if it's funny or whatever.

I understand that you're doing that because if you talk to the free chat, no one will ever give you any money.

But there's a lot of times when someone could put something in there that would enhance the show that you might be able to look at.

I, I don't disagree with you one bit.

And it has nothing to do with the money, right?

Nothing.

I know that that's hard to believe, but I have a like half track mind.

If I start reading the comments and trying to interact with Doug and trying to read the comments, there's zero chance that, yeah, it ain't gonna happen.

So the, the way that we, the way that I do it right now, on my screen, I have no chats visible.

Nothing.

Okay?

And then at the end of the regular episode, I'll go up and click comments and click Star just so I can see the super chats.

And then I'll go through and I want to make sure to read the super chats because they paid for us to read them.

Okay, so click the chat right now and find out what the chat's thinking of, what we're doing.

Yeah, and then, then it just becomes silence.

And then it's me.

It's just a bonus show.

Nobody cares.

It's a bonus show.

It's just click and find out what if.

What people are saying right now, no big deal.

Okay, so I'm, I'm, I'm skimming through, just looking at the first five or six comments, and it's nothing that's going to add or change the direction of the show.

Okay, well then I was wrong.

It's usually.

Sometimes there's something in there.

See, there you go.

And that's funny.

No, no, no.

You see what just happened?

One of my biggest pet peeves.

We are recording an audio podcast, right?

Anthony put up a chat on the screen, and then the people that are listening to this have no idea what the fuck just happened.

That's right.

That's my fault.

I should have said gay.

Okay, don't put up any more chats.

Anthony, stop.

It wasn't funny.

Your audience are idiots and they don't have anything to add to the show.

Sorry.

How Is that.

Oh, my God.

That's a.

That's a flaw on our part.

Don't.

Don't dog our audience because we suck at podcasting now.

Your audience is horrible.

All right, put up another one.

I'll read it.

No, so.

So here's.

Here's something that could have added something if I would have picked up on it as we were talking.

Matthew Bergen suggests Anthony, don't use WD40.

Don't lose.

It doesn't lubricate anything.

Use a real lubricant, you fool.

See, now I have a problem with this.

You.

You say WD40 doesn't work.

Use a real lubricant.

What?

Lubricant.

A real one?

Yeah.

What.

Which one?

What's a real lubricant?

I don't know, but I don't want to have a conversation.

See, Silicone lubricant.

Is that.

It says right on the thing, Matthew.

Is that any better?

Yeah, and this is what I want.

I.

I do not want this show to be us talking to the chat and then waiting 30 seconds to a minute for the chat to talk back.

Right.

I have no interest in doing that.

Right.

Okay, well, then I don't know what I'm talking about.

We can yell at you for it.

You asked me, I told me.

You said no.

Okay, what else you got?

Nothing.

I can't think of anything else.

Don't retreat into yourself now.

Come on.

I'm serious.

If I could think of anything, it was just the one thing, because I was.

I was in the chat for Dear Flabby, and I put a question up, and I thought it was a really good question.

I know.

I.

I want to be.

I want to be serviced.

And I thought the question would have been funny.

I.

Your take on that question would have been.

I thought funny.

Okay, but you didn't.

Didn't even address it.

And I was like, I should have.

I should have paid $2 and you would have addressed it.

I didn't think of that.

How.

How would we.

How.

Okay, how would you suggest that we do that?

I do it all the time.

I just.

I look, I scan it, and as I'm.

As we're talking, I see something, I star it like what you guys do, and then when I want to go.

No, no, no, no, no.

All right, I'm sorry that I miss.

Would I misunderstand something?

I have it set up so the super chats are auto starred as they come in.

Okay.

All right.

See, I was thinking.

Well, I will say that if you're scanning the Chat, then you're not listening to your co host.

Right.

You're disengaged, at least to a point.

You might be right.

You're probably better at it than I am.

But that doesn't mean that you're not.

You can't be engaged in a conversation and reading through 50 chats or what?

You just can't.

There's.

It's not.

Isn't it like, to me, it's like taking phone calls from radio.

It's in, it's in, you know, where you interact with your audience, but you don't want to do it.

Okay, so that was my only critique.

It's.

No, no, it's not that we don't want to.

That's why we do listener based episodes so we can interact with our audience on a personal level.

They have to pay for it though.

No, we send out open invites to our patrons all the time.

You've been on one of those shows.

I have, yes.

We've done it several times.

And you've.

I think you've been on more than once.

Is that when you go in Discord and you.

That's after show Chance.

If, if we were to take your advice, and I'm going to tell you why we're not going to take your advice.