Who's Right Bonus Episode

This episode dives deep into the dynamics of podcasting relationships and the challenges of maintaining authenticity while catering to an audience. John and Duchess navigate the complexities of their show, discussing how preparation impacts spontaneity and the listening experience. The conversation reveals John's struggle with wanting to ensure a quality show versus the desire for a more relaxed, free-flowing format. Duchess pushes back against John's tendency to overprepare, emphasizing the importance of engaging with their audience in real-time. Throughout the episode, humor and tension intertwine as they confront misconceptions about gender dynamics and the roles within their podcasting partnership, ultimately highlighting the need for balance between structure and spontaneity.
Takeaways:
- The host expresses his concerns about releasing Patreon content without permission from Doug.
- John shares his internal struggles with anxiety and the fear of being unprepared.
- Duchess emphasizes the importance of treating everyone equally during podcast discussions.
- The group discusses the significance of spontaneity in podcasting and how it enhances engagement.
- The conversation highlights the tension between preparing for shows and maintaining authenticity.
- An ongoing theme in the podcast is the dynamic between humor and serious discussions.
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00:00 - None
00:10 - Behind the Paywall
04:24 - Emotional Responses and Reactions
11:32 - Confronting Authority
13:48 - A Conversation on Manhood and Violence
24:02 - The Rise of Jake Paul in Boxing
28:37 - Exploring Podcasting Motivations
40:07 - Evaluating the Podcast's Success
45:44 - Engaging with the Audience
53:05 - Navigating Show Dynamics and Audience Engagement
59:08 - Defending New Jersey
01:05:33 - The Transition to New Topics
01:07:05 - The Evolution of a Host
01:15:54 - Handling Conversations
01:20:02 - The Flow of Conversation
01:30:11 - The Direction of the Show
01:36:21 - The Boomer Bunker: A Discussion on YouTube and Social Media
Hey, how's it going?
Host
All right.
Host
So this is just a very special probably going to get me in trouble episode of the Boomer Bunker, and I'll tell you why.
Host
I went on Doug and Anthony's Patreon bonus show.
Host
So this is behind their paywall.
Host
I asked for permission, and Doug hasn't given me permission yet.
Host
Hopefully, he's given me permission.
Host
I don't know if that's going to happen or not, but we'll find out.
Host
What I want to do is release this to you.
Host
Now, I don't like releasing Patreon stuff, but the issue is, I was on the show with him, and Duchess came on later, and I think you guys will enjoy it.
Host
It's only going to be on this feed, and I'm only going to put it on here for one week.
Host
So this is a true bonus episode.
Host
After one week, it disappears.
Host
So I hope you enjoy it.
Host
And I am a true fan of the who's Right podcast.
Host
Go over to their Patreon.
Host
It's like, I forget how much is.
Host
I think it's like $55 for the year and whatever it is a month.
Host
Go over, subscribe to their podcast.
Host
Check out their YouTube channel.
Host
You can go over to whose right podcast.com and check out all their stuff.
Host
They got a lot of stuff over there.
Host
They've got Arizona Bay coffee.
Host
They've got candy.
Host
They got all kinds of stuff over at that website.
Host
So go over and check them out.
Host
And, Doug, if you didn't want me to use this.
Host
Sorry.
Host
Not sorry.
Host
All right, enjoy.
Speaker B
What's up?
Speaker C
What's going.
Speaker C
What's going on?
Speaker B
How are you doing?
Speaker C
I'm doing really well.
Speaker C
How are you doing?
Speaker B
I'm good.
Speaker B
Your chair is.
Speaker B
I'm not gonna freak out, but your chair is extra loud tonight.
Speaker C
All right, I'll.
Speaker C
I'll oil it up.
Speaker B
I meant to tell you that before we recorded, but I decided to wait until right after we went live.
Speaker C
Yeah, of course.
Speaker C
But I.
Speaker B
You know what?
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
You asked specifically.
Speaker B
We should bring John on.
Speaker B
Sure.
Speaker B
I think he would be the ideal person to vet.
Speaker B
He.
Speaker B
I'm gonna bring John on.
Speaker B
Hi, John.
Host
Gentlemen.
Host
How you doing?
Speaker B
We are good.
Speaker B
So have you been listening to our show for.
Speaker B
Do you still listen to our show?
Host
I'm very upset with you two.
Speaker C
Oh.
Host
Because I sent in a Dear Flavvy.
Speaker B
Cool.
Speaker B
Do you still listen to our show?
Host
Yes.
Speaker B
Okay, so the chair squeak.
Speaker B
Arc.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
Could you hear the chair squeak on your end?
Host
I.
Host
I'll be honest with you.
Host
I did not hear it until you Mentioned it, and then he would do it.
Host
So I didn't hear it.
Host
I don't know if it was the way you processed the show or the audio came through.
Host
I didn't hear it.
Host
Okay, But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker B
So right now, tonight, have you heard it since you've been in the room now?
Speaker B
Okay, so then there's something.
Speaker B
For some reason, I'm hearing it amplified more than what you are hearing it.
Speaker B
Okay, so to Anthony's point, it's either my noise canceling headphones, whatever the.
Speaker B
Whatever the case may be, Right?
Speaker B
Fuck you, John.
Speaker B
You should have just taken my fucking side.
Host
All right, I'm sorry.
Host
Yes.
Host
It bothers me.
Host
And you know how I am about audio.
Speaker B
Okay, next thing.
Speaker B
So you sent in a Dear Flabby.
Host
Yes.
Speaker B
Cool.
Speaker B
Thank you for that.
Host
You didn't read it, but okay.
Speaker B
How do you know that?
Speaker B
How do you know I've even gotten to it?
Host
How many do you have?
Host
It was weeks ago.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker C
Yeah, we're like eight months behind.
Speaker C
We're that popular.
Host
Well, it's going to be.
Host
There's no sense of reading now we're going to talk about it because my Dear Flabby was Dear Flabby.
Host
I listened to this podcast where the one podcaster moans about the other podcaster's chair squeaking and it's taking away from the show.
Host
I understand it can be a little annoying, but can we please stop talking about it?
Speaker B
We did.
Speaker B
We actually did that.
Host
How did I not hear it?
Host
All right, well, then I apologize.
Speaker C
Did we do that one?
Host
Now I'm back on Anthony's side.
Host
I don't really care if the chair squeaks.
Speaker C
Jesus Christ.
Speaker B
So, John, what have you been up to?
Host
Too much.
Host
I'm obsessing over everything that I do right now.
Host
And now I think I want to take a break from all the nonsense that I get upset about.
Speaker C
That's probably a good idea.
Host
Yes.
Speaker B
What are you getting upset about?
Host
Well, like I said, we just went through that whole election thing, and then, I don't know, I just find it funny to watch once.
Host
I love the losers.
Host
I love it when losers melt down.
Host
It's my funniest thing to watch is when I watch them just melt down and lose their.
Host
I just enjoy it.
Host
It's so fun.
Host
Just because.
Host
Isn't it fun just to watch people lose their mind and.
Host
And yell and scream?
Speaker C
I mean, I think you prove that, right?
Host
Pretty much, yes.
Speaker C
People, I.
Speaker C
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker C
I'm just trying to figure out the Like, I don't know psychology or whatever behind it.
Speaker C
I don't know what it is, but it's a weird thing to like.
Host
Let me ask you this.
Host
Has Anthony ever yelled at Doug?
Host
I know Doug yells at Anthony, but has Anthony ever gotten so mad that he actually yelled back at Doug?
Host
I don't think I've ever heard you get mad and yell.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker B
He doesn't.
Speaker B
He doesn't abuse me like that on.
Speaker B
On the show.
Speaker B
He does it afterwards.
Host
Well, that's no fun.
Host
Why would you do that?
Host
I want to hear it on the show.
Speaker C
I'm not an abusive person.
Speaker C
I don't know.
Speaker C
Have I ever.
Speaker B
No, you just.
Speaker C
When.
Speaker B
When it.
Speaker B
When Anthony gets really pissed off, he just shuts down.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker C
I don't.
Speaker C
I'm not an.
Speaker C
I'm not an overtly, like, aggressive, outwardly person.
Speaker C
When I'm mad, I just.
Host
He's a peace Nick.
Speaker B
In other words, something.
Host
Yeah, he's a peacenik.
Host
In other words, he just shuts down and doesn't say anything and retreats.
Host
Where Doug and I.
Host
We attack.
Host
Yes and no.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker B
I don't attack.
Speaker C
Yes.
Host
You're doing it now.
Speaker B
I stand my position.
Speaker C
You're doing it now.
Speaker C
No, I don't attack.
Speaker C
That's not standing your position.
Speaker B
Yes, it is.
Speaker B
I'm standing my.
Speaker B
I'm defending my position that I don't attack.
Host
But you do, though, by attacking.
Speaker B
I haven't attacked yet.
Speaker B
You son of a bitch.
Host
You're doing it now.
Speaker C
You're baiting me into it and you're falling for it.
Speaker C
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Speaker B
So, no, to.
Speaker B
To your point, Anthony does not.
Speaker B
When he has screamed, it's always been for effect, not out of anger.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker C
I.
Speaker C
I have an innate understanding that I am not, like.
Speaker C
I mean, intimidating.
Speaker C
I'm not an intimidating person.
Speaker C
So it's like if even in my own mind, if I'm angry and I start yelling, I feel ridiculous because I know that I'm not intimidated.
Speaker C
I just know that I'm not.
Speaker C
I'm not an intimidating person.
Speaker C
I get it.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
Can we role play?
Speaker B
Oh, boy.
Speaker C
Yeah, sure.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I want to know what you sound like.
Speaker B
I've never thought about it.
Speaker B
I don't know what you sound like when you get angry because you get quiet.
Speaker C
You.
Speaker B
You cross your arms and you put your head down and you look at the floor.
Speaker C
I.
Speaker C
I don't know about all that, but.
Host
Can I ask a question?
Speaker C
Yes.
Host
What has.
Host
What's the thing that Doug did while you were recording that made you the most angry?
Speaker C
I don't Know, I.
Speaker C
It's not.
Speaker C
I don't know.
Speaker B
Not what Doug does.
Speaker B
It's what Doug says.
Host
Right, okay.
Host
What Doug says.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
It's not.
Speaker C
It's a pattern of behavior.
Speaker C
It's systemic.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker C
That's.
Speaker C
I don't.
Speaker C
I don't have a specific example, so.
Speaker B
I can tell you the maddest.
Speaker B
And it wasn't the show related, but I can tell you the maddest he's ever gotten at me.
Speaker C
Perfect.
Speaker B
It was when I told you to move my.
Speaker B
From my desk and move it to my new desk.
Host
Yeah.
Speaker C
That was ridiculous.
Speaker C
And we.
Speaker B
I mean, we just rehashed that on a recent episode, so I don't want to get into the whole thing again.
Speaker C
Right, but what.
Speaker B
How.
Speaker B
How did you resolve the situation?
Speaker B
You put your hands in your pockets, you look down at the tile.
Speaker B
You started counting tiles on your way out the door.
Host
Did he move your desk?
Speaker B
No, of course not.
Speaker C
So there was a.
Speaker C
There was.
Speaker C
In my mind.
Speaker C
I have no idea if this is true or not, but the job that I had was working for you.
Speaker B
No, I don't want to.
Speaker B
Rehab.
Speaker B
We just.
Speaker B
We just talked about it.
Speaker C
No, no, I know, I know.
Speaker C
I'm just saying.
Speaker C
I'm setting it up.
Speaker C
What I'm saying.
Speaker C
So there was a chance in my mind that if I didn't do what you were asking, I would lose this job that I really enjoyed doing.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker C
Whether or not that's true, I have no idea.
Speaker C
But there was.
Speaker C
I'm losing this job, I guess there's zero chance that I'm moving your.
Host
Right.
Speaker B
And that is.
Speaker B
And that is your issue with authority.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And that's why.
Speaker B
That's what's held you back your entire life.
Speaker B
And it's holding you back now.
Speaker C
Yeah, that's fine.
Host
Passive aggressive.
Host
No.
Host
Passive.
Host
No aggressive.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker B
It has nothing to do with passive aggressive.
Speaker B
It has to do with his problem with authority.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker B
In.
Speaker B
In the position that we were in, I was in a position of authority over him, but not like his boss.
Speaker B
Okay?
Speaker B
Yeah, but I was in a position of authority.
Speaker B
He was my or my helper.
Speaker C
Right, Right.
Speaker B
Okay, so Egyptian guy.
Speaker B
I'm not gonna deal with you right now.
Speaker C
Jesus.
Speaker B
I got distracted.
Speaker B
Hold on.
Speaker B
I gotta fix that.
Speaker B
Okay, so what you just heard Anthony say was he had a job that he enjoyed doing.
Speaker B
He enjoyed the project for the most part.
Speaker B
He enjoyed the people he was working with.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker B
And in this one situation, the guy that was giving him his direction asked him to do something or probably told him to do something.
Speaker B
And in that moment, he made A decision.
Speaker B
I'm going to give up this job that I like because this guy is telling me to do something that I don't want to do.
Host
Right.
Host
It's beneath me, I know.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker C
You're both wrong.
Speaker C
It's not that this guy is telling me to do something I don't want to do.
Speaker C
And it's not that it's beneath me.
Speaker C
It's that in that moment, the way that you communicated this was, you are my.
Speaker C
And no.
Speaker C
Well, okay.
Speaker C
I guess we're done then.
Speaker C
That was.
Speaker B
And that's what I just said, because I told you to do something.
Speaker C
Right.
Host
So Anthony's one of those guys where it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Speaker C
No, I don't.
Speaker B
I don't blame him.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
He made the right call.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker B
Because if I would have.
Speaker B
If he would have just said okay, I would have had him upstairs wiping my ass.
Host
Right.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker C
As I.
Speaker C
I'm not intimidating, but I'm also not.
Speaker C
Dude, I'm not your.
Speaker C
Like, I guess I'm not doing this job anymore, if that's what it comes to.
Speaker C
You know what I mean?
Speaker B
But that.
Speaker B
That is still a fault of yours.
Speaker C
How?
Speaker B
Because what you should have done in the moment is said.
Speaker B
Listen, there's no reason for you to talk to me the way you're talking to me.
Speaker B
If you need help moving the shit, I'll be happy to help.
Speaker B
But if you're going to sit here and tell me to do it because you think you're on some kind of fucking power trip, then I'll just go back and fucking lathe stuff.
Host
If the three of us were in prison, who would be getting raped?
Speaker B
You.
Host
Me?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker C
Look at me.
Speaker C
Nobody wants to rape me.
Host
You don't think I could stand my ground and fight off a rapist?
Speaker C
No.
Host
No.
Speaker B
Damn.
Host
I'm losing my.
Host
I'm losing my.
Host
I don't know, whatever you would call it.
Host
I'm losing my toughness, I guess.
Speaker C
I, I.
Speaker C
You come off as, like more of a.
Speaker C
Doug comes off as a aggressive, angry.
Speaker C
You come off as like a sort of like a fake aggressive, kind of.
Speaker C
Not really all that aggressive.
Speaker C
Aggressive.
Speaker C
I don't know how to explain it.
Host
Damn.
Host
Damn.
Host
I wanted to be more aggressive.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I would be happy to put on a seminar to teach you both how to act like men.
Host
Okay.
Speaker B
I'm interested.
Speaker C
I can't wait.
Speaker C
Perfect.
Host
I'll sign me up.
Speaker B
I'll have to work on it.
Host
Okay.
Speaker C
I'm gonna have to ask around.
Host
I have to get a real man to show me how to show you guys how to be real men.
Speaker B
I can tell you what not to do.
Host
Okay?
Speaker B
Okay, perfect.
Speaker B
If somebody starts yelling at you, you don't put your head down and put your hands in your pockets and shuffle out of the room, what would you do?
Speaker B
Punch him in the head.
Speaker B
Nobody talks to me like that.
Speaker B
John, if you.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker B
I want you to think of 25 year old John, okay?
Speaker B
You're in a bar and some guy walks up and starts yelling at you, right?
Speaker B
He doesn't touch you, he doesn't lay a hand on you, but he gets in your face and he starts pointing at you and he's saying he's going to kick your ass.
Speaker B
What do you do?
Host
I punch him, right?
Host
Yes.
Host
As soon as he puts his finger up, I hit him.
Speaker C
As soon as he puts his finger out.
Speaker C
In your face up.
Host
Yeah.
Host
As soon as he's.
Host
As soon as he's close.
Host
As soon as he's within striking business, I punch him as hard as I can.
Speaker C
So stupid, right?
Speaker B
But that's okay.
Speaker B
You just failed.
Speaker B
You just failed.
Speaker C
What?
Speaker B
The man thing.
Speaker C
It's the dumbest ever.
Host
Okay?
Speaker B
Do you want to be a man or not?
Speaker C
Apparently not.
Speaker B
Okay, well, then.
Speaker B
Then that segment's over.
Speaker B
We can move on to something else.
Speaker C
The only way to be a man is to punch another man in the face.
Host
I just told this story.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no.
Speaker B
Hold on.
Speaker B
You skipped the important part.
Speaker B
That guy was trying to point your manhood out.
Speaker B
He was trying to take your manhood away.
Host
Exactly.
Speaker B
And you allowed him.
Host
Exactly.
Speaker C
I didn't.
Speaker B
You did.
Speaker C
I didn't allow him.
Speaker B
You.
Speaker B
You did.
Speaker B
Look.
Speaker C
Oh, there goes my manhood.
Speaker C
You pointed it away.
Host
All right, here's a real scenario.
Host
You're in a bar with your date.
Host
Okay?
Host
You're.
Host
You're up at the bar.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Host
And a guy slides in between you and your.
Host
Your date and starts talking to her.
Host
And then she says, I'm sorry, I'm.
Host
I'm with my boyfriend.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Host
And he turns around and goes, that's not much of a boyfriend.
Host
What do you do?
Speaker B
You know he's right.
Host
Is that what you say, Doug?
Host
I don't think that's what you say.
Speaker B
Dad, what are you doing here?
Host
Dad, what are you doing here?
Speaker C
It seems to me like the only answer that you two ever have is, I don't know, punch him in the face.
Speaker C
Like that's.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker B
What do you do?
Speaker C
I'm not punching him in the face.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
What do you Do I tell him.
Speaker C
To get out of here?
Speaker B
I don't know.
Speaker C
I have here.
Speaker B
Scram.
Speaker C
Get the out of here, man.
Speaker C
What the you doing?
Speaker B
Scram.
Host
What did you, what would.
Speaker B
How many beers have I had?
Host
5.
Speaker B
Have I done any shots?
Host
No, you're still, you're still in control.
Speaker C
God, after five beers, half a sip and half a sip, you are a pussy.
Speaker B
I, I don't think I would punch him.
Speaker B
I, I, I know that there would be contact.
Speaker B
It would probably be me just grabbing the person and flinging them.
Host
Right.
Speaker B
And then seeing what happened from there.
Host
See, I grabbed the back of the hair and I banged his head off the bar twice and then kicked his feet out from under him.
Host
And then the bouncers got there.
Host
See, that's the nice thing.
Host
You just got to hold your own until the bouncers get there.
Speaker C
And then they take him and then.
Host
They throw you all out.
Speaker C
Ah.
Speaker C
And then you're out in the street with this guy and then you fight him out.
Host
That's okay.
Host
He's got a hell of a headache.
Host
But I guess now in my elder age, I'm just a pussy.
Host
I don't know, getting raped in prison.
Speaker B
Okay, okay.
Speaker B
And, John, this is why I said what I said, because you won, you, whatever you did when you were 25 carries nothing.
Host
Now, I know that's the hardest part, but it feels that way.
Host
Like, I watched that Tyson Jake Paul fight.
Host
Boom.
Host
And I felt so bad for Mike.
Speaker B
Tyson, I had this banner made.
Speaker B
And you hit both things John's topics for when he comes on Trump and Tyson.
Speaker B
You knocked off the Trump thing right off the bat by talking about the election.
Speaker C
Good job.
Host
I had a feeling that's why you brought me on.
Host
So I figured I would lead you down the path.
Host
I would, I would go down the path.
Speaker B
I did that.
Speaker B
I brought you on because Anthony said, hey, John was in the chat.
Speaker C
You want to bring him on the chat?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker C
We hadn't talked to you in a while.
Speaker C
Just seeing what was up.
Host
Yes.
Speaker C
So is it just that you are okay?
Speaker C
Do you think that you can hold your own if you went, I don't know, if you go out to the bars or whatever anymore.
Host
Not now.
Host
I can't.
Host
I can't now.
Host
I used to be able.
Host
I can't now.
Host
It's, you know, like I said, that's why I was so, so hard to watch that Tyson fight last night or the other night, because I, you know, I watched him just dismantle men, and that's what I wanted to see him do.
Host
Although I do believe the fight was fixed, and I do believe that Tyson would have been able.
Host
Still being able to knock him out, but to watch him and.
Host
Because, you know the Tyson that he wants to be and you know the Tyson he trained for, it's just that he went in there, he just didn't have it anymore.
Host
And that's sad.
Host
It's sad as you get older.
Speaker B
Hold on.
Speaker B
You can't have.
Speaker B
You're.
Speaker B
You're using both sides of the coin.
Host
Yes.
Speaker B
Was it fixed and he could have demolished Jake Paul, or did he not have it anymore?
Speaker B
Because you just said it was both.
Host
Well, okay.
Host
When I first watched it, I thought that, you know, he was just tired and he couldn't do it anymore.
Host
But then I watched it a second time, and there was a lot of times where he had opened up and his hand was.
Host
And Jake had opened up, and he could have just tore his head off, and he didn't do it.
Host
He didn't use.
Host
He didn't punch, and that's just not Tyson.
Host
So I do think it was fixed.
Speaker B
So I watched you and Duchess talk about this, and I wanted to come on your show and weigh in because both of you were speaking out of.
Speaker B
I understand the name of your show is Boomer Bunker.
Speaker B
I get it.
Speaker B
So for me to say you guys sounded like Boomers would be a statement.
Host
Okay.
Speaker B
But you were speaking out of ignorance 100% in everything that you were saying.
Speaker B
Duchess specifically talking about the Paul brothers or whatever, and Jake Paul not.
Speaker B
Or Logan Paul not having any money or talent, which is why he was spraying his brother.
Speaker B
And, like, they are both phenomenal successes.
Speaker B
Jake Paul is the promoter that put this fight together.
Speaker B
Who gives a.
Speaker B
If it was fixed, like, to fight.
Host
I want to fight.
Host
I don't want to fix.
Speaker B
Then go fight.
Host
It's wrestling.
Host
Then it's okay.
Host
But it's not.
Host
It's not.
Host
Is what.
Host
It's not what they.
Host
It's not what they put it.
Host
They didn't promote it as a wrestling match.
Host
They didn't promote it as an exhibition.
Speaker B
What?
Host
Well, that's what I wanted to say.
Speaker B
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker B
So fucking what?
Speaker B
You didn't pay anything for it.
Host
Okay, you say that, but I pay for Netflix.
Speaker B
And you signed up for this fight, right?
Host
Well, no, I mean, it wasn't.
Host
Oh, if I'd have paid for.
Host
If I had to paid, like, $25 or $50 or whatever they would have said for pay per View and watch that thing, I would have been pissed.
Speaker B
So you then you should.
Speaker B
Then you should have been.
Speaker B
Then you would be an idiot.
Speaker B
Okay, if, if Don King, if you go back 30 years and don King was the promoter for a fight as well as one of the fighters.
Host
Okay.
Speaker B
Would you be surprised if there was a fixed.
Host
Would I be surprised?
Host
No.
Host
Okay, you're right.
Host
I wouldn't be surprised.
Host
But there's betting on it.
Host
Okay, so there.
Host
If there's betting on this.
Host
If there's betting on it, then it should not be fixed.
Speaker B
There's betting on wrestling.
Speaker C
I was with you.
Host
Are you kidding me?
Host
Who wouldn't knit with bets on wrestling?
Host
Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker C
I was with you, John, up until you.
Speaker C
You were making an argument that you wanted a fair fight, you wanted to fight, whatever, and then you, Doug, came in with an argument and then you're like, oh, but there was betting.
Speaker C
So you're just kind of moving the goalposts, you know what I mean?
Speaker C
Like, well.
Host
Okay, so my real, my theory is, or my position is that don't tell me it's going to be a boxing match.
Host
And you watch Tyson train for as long as he trained and he looked like a monster.
Host
And then he comes in and he fights for one round and he just dances around and they hold each other like they're at a prison dance.
Host
I'm sorry, I just.
Speaker B
Don't shut it off and move on with your life is what I'm saying.
Speaker B
I was as excited as you were about watching another Tyson fight.
Host
Right.
Speaker B
I had the same thought, but it was a dog shit fight.
Speaker B
You could tell after that first clinch, Tyson came out like old Tyson.
Host
Yes.
Speaker B
And then there was that clinch.
Speaker B
And I'm sure Jake Paul said, what the fuck are you doing?
Host
Right?
Speaker B
And then after that, Tyson started biting his glove and it was just all downhill from there.
Speaker B
And it's like, oh, okay, so that's what this is.
Speaker B
I'm going to shut this off.
Host
Did you shut it off?
Host
Did you watch the whole thing?
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I watched it until the, the final bell.
Speaker B
I didn't wait around to see the.
Host
Decision, but that's exactly what I did, too.
Host
I turned it off after because I knew what was going to happen.
Speaker B
But.
Speaker B
But my point is, who gives a.
Speaker B
Like, you should have known going into it.
Speaker B
The promoter is a fighter, is one of the fighters.
Speaker B
He was doing everything he could to drum up business.
Speaker B
Eventually that business model is, it's not going to work anymore.
Speaker B
Either he's going to have somebody that won't follow the script, or there'd just be no interest.
Host
All right, So I Can't think of the words because I'm stupid.
Host
There's the protagonist and then there's the other guy.
Speaker B
Antagonist.
Host
Okay, So I say Jake.
Speaker B
Almost the same fucking word.
Host
Right?
Host
The other word.
Host
There's a pro and ag.
Host
Tennis and.
Host
And Jake Paul was the protagonist.
Host
Right.
Host
That's the bully.
Host
That's the bad guy.
Host
Right.
Host
Am.
Speaker B
I mean, he was the guy that was antagonizing everybody.
Host
Okay.
Speaker C
That's what he was.
Host
All right.
Host
He came out in the car and they're spraying and it just.
Host
And you just wanted to see Mike Tyson come out there and punch a lisp into him.
Speaker C
Yeah, that's the whole.
Speaker C
They set this up to make you want that so that people.
Host
I wanted it and I was disappointed.
Speaker C
They did a good job and I.
Host
Don'T like being disappointed.
Host
Right.
Speaker C
Are you okay?
Speaker C
Are you disappointed because you felt lied to?
Host
Yes.
Speaker C
I never watched a boxing match in my life and I saw through it before it even started.
Speaker C
You watch boxing.
Speaker C
How did you not see through it?
Speaker C
That's on you that you felt disappointed.
Speaker C
That's on you that you didn't see through it.
Host
So you brought me on here to make me feel like an asshole tonight.
Host
I mean.
Speaker B
Yes, you're the one that brought it up.
Speaker C
Dude, I don't give a fuck about boxing.
Speaker B
I so.
Speaker B
I know.
Speaker B
And the other thing, the other problem, John, that you should feel like an asshole for is that you were trying to live vicariously through another man.
Host
No, I was not.
Host
That's not true.
Speaker C
Bullshit.
Speaker B
That's how you started this fucking episode, talking about how, yes, I'm older, I can't hold my own anymore.
Speaker B
But with the Tyson fight and then watching him destroy people and I wanted to watch.
Speaker B
It was.
Speaker B
It was.
Speaker B
Your youth was tied to a black man.
Host
That's not true.
Host
That's unfortunate.
Host
That's not true.
Host
And if.
Host
Keep that up, I'm going to make my chair sque.
Speaker C
Listen, that was pretty funny.
Host
This Jake Paul has been dancing around fighting nobodies.
Host
And I just figured that.
Speaker B
Again with the bullshit.
Host
Go through the list of people that.
Speaker B
He fought and you're calling them nobody.
Host
I'd be honest with you.
Host
I thought that like somewhere in the, like after round one or round two, something would snap at Tyson and he would treat him like he treated his ex wife and just knock the out of him.
Speaker B
And I'm not going to let you gloss over it.
Speaker B
Name five people that Jake Paul's fought.
Host
No.
Speaker C
I can't.
Speaker B
It's cool.
Speaker C
I can't either.
Speaker B
Jon, you're doing.
Host
You Know what?
Host
First of all, I don't have a memory.
Host
I couldn't even.
Host
I couldn't even tell you.
Speaker B
Doing.
Speaker B
The thing that.
Speaker B
That annoys me about people like you is you're just Me.
Speaker B
You're regurgitating talking points.
Speaker B
And that's what pissed me off about watching you and Duchess talk about it, because you were both just regurgitating other people's thoughts.
Host
No, they were my thoughts.
Host
They were not.
Host
Other people had the same thoughts as mine.
Host
Doesn't mean I'm regurgitated.
Host
They were my thoughts.
Host
How dare you.
Speaker B
So you're telling you.
Speaker B
You're telling me that your thoughts were.
Speaker B
Jake Paul has fought a long list of nobodies without knowing any of the people that he's fought.
Host
Yeah, I can't think.
Host
Listen, Doug, I can't remember shit, all right?
Host
I can't help that, okay?
Host
But if you gave me a list of who he fought, I would tell you which ones were the nobodies.
Host
It's not my fault.
Host
I don't have a memory anymore.
Host
That's the truth.
Host
I don't have a memory anymore, so I can't remember.
Host
One of them was named Roy.
Speaker B
Roy Jones Jr.
Host
There we go.
Host
There's one.
Speaker C
I don't even watch boxing.
Speaker C
And I've heard of that guy.
Speaker C
He must be.
Speaker C
See, he must be good.
Host
Okay.
Host
And he fought it when he was like 35.
Host
The guy used a cane to get in a ring.
Host
And Jake.
Host
No, that's the other Paul, wasn't it?
Host
The other which was the other one Paul fought.
Host
It's hard to tell them apart, to be honest with you.
Host
So, like, which one was banging the chick that got banned from baseball who has the really nice rack, and she has that magazine that is like a nudie magazine?
Speaker B
I don't know what the you're talking about.
Speaker C
I have no idea.
Host
And I'm the dumb one.
Speaker C
Jose.
Host
So, anyhow, what's her name?
Speaker B
Pete Rose.
Host
Pete Rose.
Host
Yes.
Host
Her name is something Rose.
Speaker B
It doesn't.
Speaker B
It doesn't matter.
Host
It doesn't.
Speaker B
So you can go down the list of all the people that Jake Paul has fought.
Speaker B
Nate Diaz.
Speaker B
Okay, so he's a nobody.
Host
Do you.
Host
Anthony, do you know Nate Diaz?
Speaker B
No.
Host
No, he's a nobody.
Host
Go ahead.
Host
Who else?
Speaker C
So the bars, if I know who they are.
Host
That's correct.
Host
Yes, for my argument right now, because.
Speaker C
I know nothing about boxing.
Speaker B
So Nate Diaz is an MMA MMA fighter.
Host
Okay.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
Anderson Silva.
Host
I don't know who he is.
Host
Yeah, he's a nobody.
Speaker B
Okay, so here's.
Speaker B
Here's the problem.
Speaker B
Somebody that doesn't ever watch boxing, being John or and or Anthony sees a list of fighters and says, well, I've never heard of them, so they're nobodies.
Speaker B
And to my point earlier, that just means that you were regurgitating other people's talking points.
Host
I just wanted to see him not knock out J.
Host
Cole.
Host
What about, I wanted to see him knock him out.
Speaker B
That's fine.
Speaker B
So did everybody else.
Speaker B
That's why so many people watched.
Host
Right.
Host
And why did we get that that's what we wanted.
Speaker C
Why?
Speaker B
Why do you think that Jake Paul came out to the song that he came out to?
Speaker B
Because everybody wanted Tyson to come out to that song.
Speaker C
What was the song like?
Host
I don't remember.
Speaker B
In the Air Tonight.
Host
I thought it was ymca.
Host
Oh, no, that was Trump.
Host
I'm sorry.
Host
Same.
Speaker C
Don't, don't.
Speaker C
Just don't.
Speaker C
I just want to tell you not to do that when you do things like that.
Speaker C
Just don't.
Speaker B
Okay, So I don't know.
Speaker B
Obviously neither one of you have any interest in becoming a man, so we're not going to do that.
Speaker B
Sick.
Host
How dare you.
Speaker B
But I would like to offer this opportunity, Anthony, for you to offer John suggestions on how to be a better podcaster.
Host
Oh, I'm all over this.
Host
Come on, let's do it.
Speaker C
Please, hold on, let me get through this before.
Host
Let me get a pencil on paper.
Host
I want to write this down.
Host
Come on.
Host
Here we go.
Host
What do I got to do better?
Host
Oh, God, please.
Host
I'm ready.
Speaker C
All right, so it depends on what you want out of podcasting.
Speaker C
What is it that you would like to get out of podcasting, John?
Host
I just want something to do so I don't have to watch TV one or two nights a week.
Speaker C
That's a stupid way to look at it.
Speaker C
You're never going to get rich that way.
Host
I don't want to get rich.
Host
I do everything not to get rich at podcasting.
Speaker C
Me too.
Host
See?
Speaker B
Okay, so if that's your only goal, then you're succeeding, then you don't need any pointers.
Speaker C
That's right.
Speaker C
That's kind of what I was thinking.
Host
There you go.
Speaker B
But I don't fucking believe you.
Speaker B
I think that that is sour grapes.
Speaker B
Okay, so that means yes, if some.
Speaker B
Some company called you up and said, hey, I've been checking out your show and I would like you to play this little 30 second ad at the beginning for whatever the fuck it is, and we'll pay you a thousand dollars an episode, you're going to turn it down?
Host
No.
Host
Does that make me successful?
Host
That just makes them stupid.
Host
Now, I would play it.
Host
Of course I would play it.
Speaker B
Why?
Speaker B
It has no impact on your ability to watch TV or not.
Host
They're going to give me a thousand dollars.
Host
What does.
Host
If I cannot watch TV and get $1,000, how does that hurt me?
Host
It's a win win.
Host
Of course I'm going to play the thousand dollar commercial.
Host
What's the commercial for?
Speaker B
TVs?
Speaker B
I don't fucking know.
Speaker B
It doesn't matter.
Host
TVs.
Speaker C
Oh, geez.
Host
Okay.
Host
So when I first started podcasting, what I wanted to do, you know, I wanted it to be a bigger show.
Host
Now I use it to.
Host
Now that I'm retired, I use it to just keep busy and not.
Host
And that's what I use it for.
Host
And I enjoy doing it.
Host
It's like, why do you go deer hunting?
Host
Do you really want to kill a deer?
Host
Yes.
Host
All right.
Host
But, you know, it's just a.
Host
It's a hobby that I have now.
Host
I go on and I talk.
Host
I talk to, like, I talk to a hundred people.
Speaker B
It's really nothing like deer hunting.
Host
Right.
Host
Can I just take a side tangent right now?
Host
So I was the other day, I'm looking through TikTok, and TikTok has a live of a guy sitting there in a tree stand, and you can sit there with him in his tree stand, live.
Host
And I'm like, I wouldn't sit in a tree stand if I had.
Host
If I was.
Host
Why would I do this?
Host
Like, it's the dumbest thing to have someone sitting there with our live TikTok of him hunting.
Host
Because most of it is all it's doing is waiting.
Host
But getting back to the podcasting thing, right?
Host
I just, you know, I just want to come in and do what I do, and if people like it, that's great.
Host
And if people don't like it, that's fine.
Speaker B
So I think what your answer could have been is, I want to have problem.
Host
I'm wrong about what I want.
Host
I'm sorry.
Host
Tell me what I want.
Host
Tell me what I want.
Host
What I really, really want.
Speaker B
Okay, stop doing that.
Speaker B
And then I'm sorry.
Speaker B
You want to have fun?
Host
Yes, that's why I came here.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
So I want to have fun.
Speaker B
Like, that's why Anthony and I do it, because we want to have fun.
Host
All right?
Speaker B
And we want to have fun.
Speaker B
We're really squeezing as much money out of these people as possible.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker C
It just happens that we are so good.
Speaker C
See, there's a throw money at Us.
Host
Okay?
Host
But here's the difference.
Host
I don't.
Host
I don't believe what I do.
Host
And what you do is really worthy of people giving me money.
Host
But I have shame and you have none.
Host
So in other words, you don't have any shame.
Host
You're like, okay, I'll put this out here.
Host
It's not really entertaining.
Host
It's okay.
Host
I have a bunch of retards that listen to me and throw money at me, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker C
No, no more.
Speaker C
Tell me more, please.
Speaker C
This is wonderful.
Speaker C
This is like what jealousy sounds like in English.
Host
We do the same thing.
Host
I just can't.
Host
I just can't get myself to ask for money for it.
Speaker B
Hey, John, hold on.
Speaker B
Are you still a patron?
Host
Yeah.
Speaker B
Okay, John, why do you listen to our show every week?
Host
I like you, too, okay?
Speaker B
No, no, no, no.
Speaker B
Why do you listen to our show every week?
Host
I like you, too, and I listen to you because I find you entertaining.
Host
I'm a retard.
Host
I know where you're going.
Host
I'll just take you there.
Host
I've been listening to you guys before you even made a dime.
Host
All right?
Host
And we've been going through this.
Host
And the reason why did I.
Host
I signed up because something was going to happen.
Host
Oh.
Host
There was going to be some kind of trial that I was.
Host
And it was going to be something I couldn't watch.
Host
So I paid $50 so I could watch a trial, okay.
Host
For the year.
Host
And then Doug says, oh, I'd have gave it to you for nothing.
Host
Doug never gives me anything for nothing.
Host
Never once.
Host
So I figured if I was going to watch.
Speaker B
How many times have I thanked you for that 800 bucks?
Speaker B
Is that I haven't charged you for them.
Speaker B
Shout outs.
Host
Oh, my God.
Host
I forgot about that.
Host
Yeah.
Speaker C
Oh.
Speaker B
Anyway, so I think.
Host
Oh, here's irresponsible.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no.
Speaker B
I'm talking.
Host
I gotta say this.
Speaker B
Irresponsible.
Host
I have to say this before you go.
Host
Stop, stop.
Host
I have to say this.
Speaker B
No, I've got to defend our fucking audience.
Host
That 800 debt has been paid for.
Host
You don't have to worry about it anymore.
Host
You don't have to be nice to me anymore.
Host
Because of that.
Host
Because of that.
Host
Don't do that.
Speaker C
Fuck.
Host
Nice.
Speaker B
Okay, so I think you need to apologize to our audience.
Host
No.
Speaker B
Yes.
Host
Because some of your retards come over into my retard area and I have to put up with them like Wing Wong.
Host
Okay?
Speaker B
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker B
What you said was our shows are identical and they're not entertaining.
Host
Right.
Speaker B
And then you follow that up by saying, I watch your show every week because it's entertaining.
Host
Well, yes, to me.
Speaker B
Okay, so with that being said, it has nothing to do with shame.
Speaker B
It's how you present it.
Speaker B
So I decided a long time ago that I was going to be transparent.
Speaker B
It's not about not having shame.
Speaker B
It's about being transparent.
Speaker B
Okay, so, like, Anthony, if you want to finish our label conversation about the candy, we can do that right now.
Speaker B
I don't give a.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker C
So that was a sort of a joint decision.
Speaker C
It was like, whatever we do, the audience is going to know 99% of it.
Speaker C
Like, it's.
Speaker C
It's maybe even sometimes 100%, maybe even 110%.
Speaker C
They know too much sometimes.
Speaker C
It's just.
Speaker C
There is no behind the scenes, really.
Speaker C
It's.
Speaker C
It's.
Speaker B
It's.
Speaker C
They know who we are.
Speaker C
Right.
Host
I was going to get honest here, but I don't think you guys would want me to be honest here.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker B
Yes.
Host
All right.
Speaker C
What else would we want?
Host
No.
Speaker C
Is it bad?
Speaker B
If it's bad, I don't want to hear it.
Host
No.
Host
I think when I started.
Host
I think when I started this, I started it all wrong.
Host
I think I went at.
Host
At it making.
Host
Making too many enemies, where I would defend you guys far, you know, for stuff that other people would say, and then I would get in a fight with them.
Host
And you're like, fuck it.
Host
Just let them say what they want to say.
Host
I should have had that attitude, right?
Host
And I would have carried me further.
Speaker B
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Host
Well, one of the biggest things that happened with.
Host
With me was that I got in a fight with Carl over you guys.
Host
You guys sent your show in.
Host
Carl destroyed your show.
Host
I went hard after him because I didn't like the way he talked about you guys.
Host
I didn't get it.
Host
So I went hard after him.
Host
And then now I'm gonna fight with Carl.
Host
And Doug's a co host on who owns this podcast.
Host
That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever done, to be honest, with sticking up for you guys.
Host
Cause he was right about everything he said.
Host
But I didn't like the fact that he was talking about my friends that way.
Speaker C
But that was my next question was, did he say anything wrong?
Host
No, but, you know, I didn't like that he was talking about my friends that way.
Host
So stupid.
Speaker B
You got.
Speaker C
You got to look at it objectively.
Speaker C
Nothing that he said was wrong.
Host
Yeah, but you.
Host
At the time, I Thought we were friends.
Speaker B
It's irrelevant.
Host
Yeah.
Speaker C
Yeah, exactly.
Host
You're stupid.
Host
I told you I was stupid.
Speaker B
Aside from that.
Speaker B
It's a roast show.
Speaker B
I'm the one that sent the show in, asking him to roast it.
Host
I thought he was too tough on you guys, but he wasn't wrong.
Host
He could have said it nicely.
Speaker C
How is he too t.
Speaker C
If you send in a show and they roast it and he say you were too tough, you're not cut out for this shit.
Speaker C
Like, what?
Speaker C
Why?
Speaker C
There's no two.
Speaker C
There is no too tough.
Speaker C
There's no such thing as too tough.
Speaker C
That doesn't make any sense.
Host
I just told you I was going to be honest.
Host
I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker B
Right.
Host
I shouldn't have done that.
Host
I should have just.
Speaker C
I should have just.
Host
I should have just got there.
Host
I should have laughed it at you guys.
Host
With him.
Speaker B
Yes, with us.
Speaker C
With us.
Host
We laugh too, Right?
Host
I know.
Speaker C
I mean, I'm not gonna tell you that.
Speaker C
It wasn't like, oh, God, that sucks to hear somebody.
Host
You guys were like.
Host
You guys were just starting out.
Host
You were like, my children.
Host
And somebody attacked my children.
Host
And I went after them, even though my kid was.
Speaker C
Exactly.
Speaker C
Whatever they said we did, we did it at more.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
So if anything, you could have gotten pissed off at him that the episode he chose to review was the one I decided to take a.
Speaker B
In the middle of.
Host
I don't remember why.
Host
It was.
Host
Yeah.
Host
So long ago.
Speaker C
I wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker B
That's funny.
Speaker C
As you took a.
Speaker C
In the middle of the episode.
Speaker C
That's great.
Speaker C
How is that not exactly what we do and that.
Host
Yeah.
Host
I just didn't understand your brand of humor, to be quite honest with you.
Speaker B
I don't think you do still.
Host
Sometimes I.
Host
You're right.
Host
Sometimes I'm like, why are they.
Host
Sometimes you do things.
Host
And I'm not crazy, but I don't think they're funny.
Host
But some of the times you do things that are funny.
Speaker B
Okay.
Host
Again, just like anything else that you take the good and the bad.
Speaker B
So I would like to offer you this opportunity that we offered to somebody recently.
Speaker B
Help.
Speaker C
What?
Speaker C
I'm not sure where you're going.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
Put.
Speaker B
Put the pieces together.
Speaker B
Follow.
Speaker B
Follow what I just said.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And I'm not speaking in code.
Speaker B
I'm trying to coach you to be a better co host.
Speaker B
Okay.
Host
Offered somebody else something that he wants to offer me.
Host
What could.
Speaker B
They were just in a conversation with John about the state of our show.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
And I said, john, I would like to offer you this opportunity that we just offered to somebody else.
Speaker B
So we just offered.
Speaker C
You want to.
Host
I love it when the lights go on.
Host
Go ahead.
Speaker C
No, no, no, no.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah, I got it now.
Speaker C
So you want to give us.
Speaker B
But hold on.
Speaker B
But now follow along, because I'm struggling to think of the person.
Speaker B
Who it was, and I should know who it was.
Speaker B
So then when I hesitate, you jump in.
Speaker B
So you.
Speaker B
Listen, John, I'm.
Speaker C
I thought you were asking.
Speaker C
I'm having a hard time following your train of thought here.
Speaker B
It's because you're not paying attention.
Host
How can this not be funny?
Speaker C
I don't think that's what it is, John.
Speaker B
So I'm going to offer you the same opportunity that we offered to Ulysses.
Speaker B
Thank you, Anthony, for having my back in this.
Speaker C
You got it.
Speaker B
So you said something that triggered this thought in my head.
Speaker B
You said, we do some things that you don't find funny or you don't agree with.
Speaker B
Whatever.
Speaker B
I'd like to know a couple of things that.
Speaker B
If you could.
Speaker B
If you were the program director for who's right, what would you tell us?
Speaker B
Like, give us some critical feedback so we can make the show better now.
Host
Well, I'm not going to get.
Host
I'm not going to.
Host
What do I know?
Host
You guys have a successful podcast.
Host
You do.
Host
You have.
Host
You do three or four things.
Host
I don't know.
Host
You do everything.
Host
Listen, your audio quality is a lot better than it is.
Host
You get the shows out on time.
Host
You're doing three or four.
Host
You guys do an amazing job.
Host
And I'm.
Host
I'm being serious.
Host
You do an amazing job.
Host
And your.
Host
Your brand of humor and what you guys are doing is working.
Host
I wouldn't change a thing because I wouldn't even know what.
Host
How to tell you to change it to make it better.
Speaker B
So.
Speaker B
But you.
Speaker B
You're doing us a disservice.
Speaker B
So we're going to do that.
Speaker B
We're going to do this thing where we.
Speaker B
We want feedback from other.
Speaker B
It doesn't mean we're going to change whatever they say.
Speaker C
No, But.
Speaker B
But if there's an overwhelming thing, like, for instance, a lot of feedback came in saying that I was focused too much on the chair.
Speaker B
Drop it.
Speaker B
It's annoying.
Host
That was true.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Host
Right.
Speaker B
And.
Speaker B
And that's why I don't yell at him about his stupid squeaky chair that he refuses to.
Speaker B
That he refuses to fix.
Speaker B
So I.
Speaker B
I'm asking you as a friend.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I'm not saying that we're even going to do anything about it, but I want to know your point of view.
Speaker B
What are some things that you don't like about the show?
Speaker C
There has to be something.
Host
Okay, here's one today.
Speaker C
Shut the fuck up.
Host
I don't.
Host
There's obviously chat going on and there's a lot of chat going and you never address the chat unless somebody pays for it, even if it's funny or whatever.
Host
I understand that you're doing that because if you talk to the free chat, no one will ever give you any money.
Host
But there's a lot of times when someone could put something in there that would enhance the show that you might be able to look at.
Speaker B
I, I don't disagree with you one bit.
Speaker B
And it has nothing to do with the money, right?
Speaker B
Nothing.
Speaker C
I know that that's hard to believe, but I have a like half track mind.
Speaker C
If I start reading the comments and trying to interact with Doug and trying to read the comments, there's zero chance that, yeah, it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker B
So the, the way that we, the way that I do it right now, on my screen, I have no chats visible.
Speaker B
Nothing.
Speaker B
Okay?
Speaker B
And then at the end of the regular episode, I'll go up and click comments and click Star just so I can see the super chats.
Speaker B
And then I'll go through and I want to make sure to read the super chats because they paid for us to read them.
Host
Okay, so click the chat right now and find out what the chat's thinking of, what we're doing.
Speaker B
Yeah, and then, then it just becomes silence.
Speaker B
And then it's me.
Host
It's just a bonus show.
Host
Nobody cares.
Host
It's a bonus show.
Host
It's just click and find out what if.
Speaker C
What people are saying right now, no big deal.
Speaker B
Okay, so I'm, I'm, I'm skimming through, just looking at the first five or six comments, and it's nothing that's going to add or change the direction of the show.
Host
Okay, well then I was wrong.
Host
It's usually.
Host
Sometimes there's something in there.
Host
See, there you go.
Host
And that's funny.
Speaker B
No, no, no.
Speaker B
You see what just happened?
Speaker B
One of my biggest pet peeves.
Speaker B
We are recording an audio podcast, right?
Speaker B
Anthony put up a chat on the screen, and then the people that are listening to this have no idea what the fuck just happened.
Host
That's right.
Host
That's my fault.
Host
I should have said gay.
Host
Okay, don't put up any more chats.
Host
Anthony, stop.
Host
It wasn't funny.
Host
Your audience are idiots and they don't have anything to add to the show.
Speaker B
Sorry.
Speaker C
How Is that.
Speaker C
Oh, my God.
Speaker C
That's a.
Speaker C
That's a flaw on our part.
Speaker C
Don't.
Speaker C
Don't dog our audience because we suck at podcasting now.
Host
Your audience is horrible.
Host
All right, put up another one.
Host
I'll read it.
Host
No, so.
Speaker B
So here's.
Speaker B
Here's something that could have added something if I would have picked up on it as we were talking.
Speaker B
Matthew Bergen suggests Anthony, don't use WD40.
Speaker B
Don't lose.
Speaker B
It doesn't lubricate anything.
Speaker B
Use a real lubricant, you fool.
Host
See, now I have a problem with this.
Host
You.
Host
You say WD40 doesn't work.
Host
Use a real lubricant.
Host
What?
Host
Lubricant.
Speaker C
A real one?
Host
Yeah.
Host
What.
Host
Which one?
Host
What's a real lubricant?
Speaker B
I don't know, but I don't want to have a conversation.
Speaker C
See, Silicone lubricant.
Speaker C
Is that.
Speaker C
It says right on the thing, Matthew.
Host
Is that any better?
Speaker B
Yeah, and this is what I want.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I do not want this show to be us talking to the chat and then waiting 30 seconds to a minute for the chat to talk back.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker B
I have no interest in doing that.
Speaker C
Right.
Host
Okay, well, then I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker C
We can yell at you for it.
Host
You asked me, I told me.
Host
You said no.
Speaker C
Okay, what else you got?
Host
Nothing.
Host
I can't think of anything else.
Speaker C
Don't retreat into yourself now.
Host
Come on.
Host
I'm serious.
Host
If I could think of anything, it was just the one thing, because I was.
Host
I was in the chat for Dear Flabby, and I put a question up, and I thought it was a really good question.
Host
I know.
Host
I.
Host
I want to be.
Host
I want to be serviced.
Host
And I thought the question would have been funny.
Host
I.
Host
Your take on that question would have been.
Host
I thought funny.
Host
Okay, but you didn't.
Host
Didn't even address it.
Host
And I was like, I should have.
Host
I should have paid $2 and you would have addressed it.
Host
I didn't think of that.
Speaker C
How.
Speaker C
How would we.
Speaker C
How.
Speaker C
Okay, how would you suggest that we do that?
Host
I do it all the time.
Host
I just.
Host
I look, I scan it, and as I'm.
Host
As we're talking, I see something, I star it like what you guys do, and then when I want to go.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no, no.
Host
All right, I'm sorry that I miss.
Host
Would I misunderstand something?
Speaker B
I have it set up so the super chats are auto starred as they come in.
Host
Okay.
Host
All right.
Host
See, I was thinking.
Speaker B
Well, I will say that if you're scanning the Chat, then you're not listening to your co host.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker C
You're disengaged, at least to a point.
Host
You might be right.
Speaker C
You're probably better at it than I am.
Speaker C
But that doesn't mean that you're not.
Speaker C
You can't be engaged in a conversation and reading through 50 chats or what?
Speaker B
You just can't.
Speaker C
There's.
Speaker C
It's not.
Host
Isn't it like, to me, it's like taking phone calls from radio.
Host
It's in, it's in, you know, where you interact with your audience, but you don't want to do it.
Host
Okay, so that was my only critique.
Speaker C
It's.
Speaker B
No, no, it's not that we don't want to.
Speaker B
That's why we do listener based episodes so we can interact with our audience on a personal level.
Host
They have to pay for it though.
Speaker B
No, we send out open invites to our patrons all the time.
Speaker C
You've been on one of those shows.
Host
I have, yes.
Speaker C
We've done it several times.
Speaker C
And you've.
Speaker C
I think you've been on more than once.
Host
Is that when you go in Discord and you.
Speaker B
That's after show Chance.
Speaker B
If, if we were to take your advice, and I'm going to tell you why we're not going to take your advice.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
It has nothing to do with getting paid super chats or any of that.
Speaker B
Has nothing to do with it.
Speaker B
It has to do with the fact that the quality of the show would go down.
Speaker B
I wouldn't be able to drive the conversation and Anthony wouldn't be able to drive the conversation.
Speaker B
And then it would be a lot of fumbling.
Speaker B
Like what just happened when you put me on the spot and said skim the chats.
Speaker B
And then it was just silence.
Speaker B
And that, that's on me and Anthony because we are not good broadcasters for sure.
Speaker B
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C
I'm not trying to push that off on anybody else at all.
Speaker C
It's a.
Speaker C
That's an us problem.
Speaker C
But we've found a workaround.
Speaker C
I mean, it's just the way it is, you know?
Host
Okay.
Host
All right.
Speaker B
So I, I hate to keep bringing them up, but Carl, on the other hand, Kaya as well, they can watch Discord chat and live chat and me and Kyle will have a conversation in real time while he's recording his show about something completely unrelated.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker B
I can't, I can't do that.
Speaker C
No.
Host
Okay.
Speaker C
Not happening.
Host
I understand.
Speaker B
I can't even dial a phone if a fucking.
Host
Well, that was the other thing.
Host
They wanted me to have Discord up while we were Doing the show, I said, I can't look at discord or end the chat.
Host
And the other.
Host
I can't do all that.
Host
To be honest with you.
Host
I think I probably try to do too much on our show as it is, and I'm really rethinking.
Host
I'm always.
Host
Okay, so the last show we just did, the show we just did, I thought was one of the worst shows I've done in a long, long time.
Host
I felt that for some reason, I just did not have it that night.
Host
And me and Dutchess seemed to be talking over each other.
Host
And it bothers me when I go back and listen to the show, it bothers me where I'm like, okay, now I got.
Host
And so then I want to rip and rip the bandaid off and just try something completely different.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker B
So I'm going to make a suggestion for you and take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker B
You're going to do your show the way you want.
Speaker B
Okay, that's fine.
Speaker B
So I believe that you need to pick a lane.
Speaker B
You either want to record a video show or an audio show.
Host
Okay.
Speaker B
I made it very, very clear.
Host
You did.
Speaker B
I want to record an audio show.
Host
Yeah.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
So I don't want.
Speaker B
I want as minimal disruptions that an audio listening podcast or somebody listening on audio is sitting there driving, thinking, I don't know what they're laughing at.
Speaker C
Right.
Host
Okay, so I understand that.
Speaker B
Let me finish.
Speaker B
Let me finish.
Host
Oh, okay.
Speaker B
So if you're going to focus on doing a video show, then just go all in on doing a video show.
Host
And just not put it out as a podcast.
Speaker B
Well, I.
Speaker B
I can't stand listening to your show as a podcast because you reference so many videos and things on the screen and the chat and all of that.
Speaker B
And that's not engaging for me.
Speaker B
When I'm driving down the road.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I sat and watched your most recent episode.
Speaker B
I was engaging in the chat.
Speaker B
And when you.
Speaker B
When you're sitting in front of a computer and like me when I type something and then you respond to it, I enjoy that.
Speaker B
I enjoy being part of your show.
Speaker B
I enjoy that aspect of it.
Speaker B
I don't enjoy listening to other people do it.
Speaker B
Know what I mean?
Host
Yes.
Host
Okay.
Host
So just so you know, Doug, that you're my avatar.
Host
So when you come in and you say, I don't like this, I'm like, fuck, what do I do here?
Host
So when you said you don't like the video clips, I always try to make sure that it's audio.
Host
And here's another thing.
Host
And I'm just baring my soul here right now.
Host
There's a.
Speaker B
Leave your shirt on.
Host
You guys wanna see some man titties?
Host
All right, so one of the reasons I do use the audio clips is because, for me, it helps me get the point across.
Host
Like, I don't think I could tell the story better than the.
Host
Like.
Host
If I told the story about what was happening, I don't think I can tell the story as good as if you listened to it.
Host
All right, So I.
Host
It's almost like a crutch because as I get older, it takes me longer to get things out, and I find myself trying to rush, and it puts too much pressure on myself.
Host
So if I give.
Host
If I let them listen to the clip and then comment on the clip.
Speaker B
The other thing that I've noticed on your show is you have a.
Speaker B
It's almost like you have this thing in your head or maybe it's in front of you, I don't know.
Speaker B
But I have to play this clip, this clip, and this clip so you and your co host, Duchess, will be having a conversation, and you will stop that conversation so you can play the next clip.
Host
I've done that.
Host
Yeah, I've noticed.
Host
I do that.
Host
And I shouldn't do that.
Host
That is a.
Host
That is a mistake.
Host
I have to fix.
Host
The.
Host
The other situation is.
Host
And I say this all the time.
Host
How much time do you spend getting ready for the show?
Speaker B
Maybe eight minutes.
Host
Okay.
Host
Every show that I do.
Host
Every show that I do takes me eight hours of getting things ready, getting things set up, getting the audio, changing the audio to this.
Host
That.
Host
The amount of work that I do to make my show that mediocre would make you guys blow your brains out.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker B
So right there's your fucking issue.
Host
Mm.
Speaker B
You take away all the spontaneity of your show.
Speaker B
You.
Speaker B
Whatever clip it is that you're going to play, you've already heard it several times, correct?
Speaker B
Okay, so stop that.
Speaker B
Like.
Host
Okay, you're.
Host
No more clips.
Speaker B
An hour show should not take eight hours to prepare for.
Speaker B
If it's just a.
Speaker B
If it's supposed to be a conversation between you and somebody else, I guess.
Host
No, there's no.
Host
I mean, I'm serious.
Host
And I know we're boring the shit out of your audience, and I apologize for that.
Host
But, you know, in certain terms, you're not wrong.
Host
And all the terms.
Speaker B
I'm not wrong.
Host
Yeah.
Host
Not.
Host
Let's not get crazy.
Host
There's a lot.
Host
Like I said, there's a lot that I've been mauling Around.
Host
And also for me, sometimes I battle back and forth on what I really want to talk about.
Host
I talk about things that interest me.
Host
Like, you guys talk about things that interest you.
Speaker B
Sure.
Speaker B
Do you have a fear of.
Speaker B
We don't.
Speaker B
We talk about things that we think will be interesting.
Speaker B
Right.
Host
Well, that's.
Host
I'm sorry.
Host
Well, I'm sorry.
Host
I think things that interest me.
Host
I'm very narcissistic.
Host
If it interests me, it should interest you.
Host
What the fuck?
Host
What's wrong with you?
Speaker C
A lot, apparently.
Speaker C
So.
Speaker C
Fear of being unprepared?
Speaker C
Is that what it is?
Host
Yes.
Host
Yes.
Host
Oh, my God.
Host
I have a fear of getting in, doing a live show, and then being there and then being stuck with nothing to say.
Host
Oh, my God.
Host
It's a huge fear.
Speaker C
Get over.
Speaker C
Get over it.
Host
Okay.
Speaker C
Like, jump into the pool, man.
Speaker C
Like, I was, too.
Speaker C
And sometimes I guess I still am, but we do it every week.
Speaker C
And it's just.
Speaker C
If you have something to say, it'll come out, and it'll be way more spontaneous and way more interesting because your thought is in the moment.
Speaker C
What are.
Speaker C
What are you thinking?
Speaker C
My.
Speaker C
What I'm thinking right now is completely different than what I might.
Speaker C
Might think about something once I do a little bit of research on it.
Speaker C
And it's different that.
Speaker B
That's why.
Speaker B
So, of course, our show is different than your show in that, you know, we will joke about some dad beating his baby against the wall because of a video game or whatever, and I.
Speaker C
Might feel differently about that after I.
Speaker B
Do some research, but essentially, you should be doing the same thing.
Speaker B
You.
Speaker B
You pull stories that you think will be interesting.
Host
Right?
Speaker B
Don't read the whole fucking article.
Speaker B
Don't make notes.
Speaker B
Don't.
Speaker B
Just start reading the article and see where the conversation goes.
Host
Okay.
Host
Well, again, so.
Host
And I'm not throwing Duchess under the bus, but there's no way that I can have the same conversation with Duchess that I have with you two guys.
Speaker B
You sure can.
Host
No, I don't know.
Host
There's.
Host
Because there's a lot of times I upset her.
Host
A lot of times I make a rise.
Speaker C
You know, there's a lot of times that I upset Doug.
Host
Like, I did my best to make her.
Host
The last episode.
Host
I tried my best to make her cry, and I almost had her.
Host
I almost had her crying at the end of the show, and she was mad.
Host
She was mad about it, but.
Speaker B
So Anthony's my duchess.
Speaker B
I've been trying to make him cry for fucking eight years.
Host
You would be able to get him to punch somebody in the face before you could get him to cry.
Host
I just don't see Anthony as a cry.
Speaker B
You'd be surprised how many times he's teared up after the show.
Host
Oh, oh.
Host
Keep that camera rolling.
Host
Yeah.
Speaker B
Oh, he.
Speaker B
He.
Speaker B
So back when, like, when we start.
Speaker B
2017, right?
Speaker B
January 2017.
Speaker C
Yep.
Speaker B
So up until, like, 2019.
Speaker B
2020.
Speaker B
One of the reasons that I thought that we had such a fun show is because I could say or do anything to him, and he would.
Speaker B
It just rolled off his back.
Speaker B
He didn't carry it with him.
Speaker B
And then we'd come into the next episode, and it was like, I have a clean slate.
Speaker B
You know, he's.
Speaker B
He's having fun.
Speaker B
I'm having fun.
Speaker B
And it wasn't until like a year ago that I realized that he'd been carrying all that fucking luggage for so fucking long, and he was pissed off about.
Speaker C
These slates are getting heavy.
Host
Listen, that's how I was at first.
Host
And I had a co host quit for four years, and we.
Host
Last time we talked about abortion.
Host
He hasn't been back since.
Host
So we took the summer off, you know, and then here's another thing.
Host
I'm.
Host
You know, I just turned 63 last month, and I'm wondering how long I can still do this.
Host
How long can I still do this?
Speaker B
You just talk.
Speaker B
How long can you talk?
Host
Some.
Host
Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't.
Host
It also helps when you have somebody like you and Anthony that we can come here and bounce things off.
Host
And now that I've been on your show a few times.
Host
Times.
Host
I kind of know where you're going, and I kind of can play with it.
Host
Play with you.
Host
So.
Speaker B
So I.
Speaker B
I do have a bone to pick with you.
Host
Of course you do.
Speaker B
Okay, here's what I think your problem is.
Host
Thank you.
Speaker B
Let me get to it.
Speaker C
And.
Speaker B
And this applies to Duchess as well.
Host
I'm getting raped.
Host
Go ahead.
Speaker B
You guys have the same issue.
Speaker B
You think that anybody gives you any credit or gives a.
Speaker B
That you're from New Jersey, like, that's a badge of honor or a badge of toughness.
Speaker B
And I.
Speaker B
And I can't speak for her because I don't.
Speaker B
I don't know her well enough to know this, but I do know, because.
Host
You guys come from a place that nobody gives a fuck about.
Host
What do you want from me?
Speaker B
That's fine.
Speaker B
But it doesn't change anything.
Speaker B
It doesn't change the fact that I don't know how many times I've heard you say, I'm from Jersey.
Speaker B
Yeah, but that's you're still a thin skinned bitch.
Speaker B
It doesn't matter if you're.
Speaker B
If you're from Jersey or from Missouri.
Speaker C
They got in New Jersey, weird.
Speaker B
But.
Speaker B
But it's okay.
Speaker B
It's okay to be thin skinned.
Speaker B
It's the.
Speaker B
Your issue is that you try to carry the bravada of what you consider like a Jersey tough guy, but at.
Host
The same time saying, I'm faking it.
Speaker B
Faking what?
Host
Being the new J.
Host
I don't know how to fake being in the New Jersey.
Host
I'm just a New Jersey guy.
Host
And.
Host
And there.
Speaker B
That's what I mean.
Speaker B
What does that mean?
Host
Okay, we're different here, okay?
Speaker B
No, you're not.
Speaker B
You guys make believe shit.
Host
No, no.
Host
If you lived here, you would know exactly what I'm talking about.
Host
But you don't.
Host
Okay, I understand that.
Speaker B
I've been there.
Speaker B
And you know what?
Host
I've been to Kansas.
Host
There's nothing but fucking corn there.
Host
What do I care?
Speaker B
I mean, I'm in Kansas.
Speaker B
I'm Kansas tough.
Speaker B
I built Kansas tough.
Host
It's a different.
Host
It's just a different.
Host
It's different.
Host
I can't.
Host
I don't know how to explain it to you yet.
Host
You either know or you don't.
Host
That's all I can tell you.
Speaker B
No, it's make believe.
Host
It's not make believe.
Speaker B
It's Anthony.
Host
If you go.
Host
If you go.
Host
If you live in New Jersey and you go anywhere for a little while, you feel like you should be on medication.
Host
The people are so nice.
Host
Other places that you.
Host
They're so nice.
Host
You think they're after you or something.
Speaker C
That's a you problem.
Speaker B
That's a problem.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no.
Speaker B
I'm not saying that people from New Jersey aren't.
Speaker B
I'm saying that you're no tougher than anybody else.
Speaker B
You're not tough.
Host
I'm just.
Host
I'm not saying I'm tough.
Host
I'm not saying I'm not from Jersey and I'm tough.
Speaker B
I'm from Jersey, first of all.
Host
That's a thing.
Host
That's not me.
Speaker B
I'm walking here.
Host
That's the guy that's our governor that said that.
Host
And that's what we played at.
Host
I'm from Jersey, baby.
Host
That's.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no.
Speaker B
You've been saying it.
Speaker B
You people have been saying it as long as Jersey has been around.
Host
Now I gotta lean into Jersey because now, now I'm pissed.
Speaker B
Why?
Host
I don't know why.
Host
I just have to.
Speaker C
Why would you need the.
Speaker C
Feel the.
Speaker C
Needed to defend New Jersey.
Host
Because we are the.
Host
What did I say?
Host
New Jersey.
Host
New Jersey.
Host
Whatever you're going to say, it's wrong.
Host
Shut up.
Host
I'll tell you why New Jersey is the skin tag of the United States.
Host
It just kind of hangs there, you know?
Host
So of course, I'm a little.
Host
I'm a little possessive of it, you know?
Speaker C
Would you ever consider not living in New Jersey?
Host
No.
Speaker B
Why?
Host
I just.
Host
Because it's a perfect place to live.
Host
You're 15 minutes from Philly, you're an hour and a half from New York.
Host
You're three hours from.
Host
From Washington D.C.
Host
and you're in none.
Speaker B
Of those fucking places, John.
Host
And it's an hour and you're an hour.
Host
I've been to every one of those places.
Host
I went to Philadelphia.
Speaker B
I said you go to none of those places.
Host
I.
Host
Well, I used to.
Host
I don't now.
Speaker C
Why wouldn't you move somewhere nice?
Host
Because I'm used to being here.
Host
I'm planted.
Host
I got deep roots.
Host
I got kids here, for Christ's sake.
Host
Where am I walking here?
Host
I got kids here, for Christ's sake.
Host
Where am I going?
Speaker B
Are you talking to me?
Host
I've got grandkids.
Host
I've got a 14 year old grandson.
Speaker C
Do you.
Speaker C
Do you know that Snooki girl?
Host
No.
Speaker C
You guys all know each other?
Host
No.
Host
I know a lot of girls like Snooki, but I don't know Snooki.
Speaker B
But you're not answering my question.
Host
Why?
Host
She's not from New Jersey.
Host
She's from somewhere else, dancing around.
Host
I'm sorry, why?
Host
What were you going to say?
Speaker B
Do you have a shirt or anything that references the fact that you live in New Jersey?
Host
No, but Duchess does.
Speaker C
Why?
Speaker C
I feel like you're just here badmouthing her and she's not here to defend herself.
Host
No, no, I just answered the question because she just bought a Jersey shirt.
Host
I don't have anything that says I'm from New Jersey.
Host
Everything I have is sports related.
Speaker B
I don't.
Speaker B
I don't.
Speaker C
What?
Host
I don't care if you believe me.
Speaker B
What does the name Domingo mean?
Speaker B
It's a jersey.
Host
No, no, it's.
Host
It's someone.
Host
A co host gave it to me one time and it's easier to say than Buchanan.
Host
What is it easier to spell than Buchanan?
Host
So you know, for 10 years I was John Buchanan and I was working on a show and she says, and here's our producer, John Jamingo.
Host
And I said, oh, I like John Jamingo and I stole it.
Host
That's how I'm John Jamingo.
Host
I was John Buchanan for 10 years.
Host
The other day, Uncle Randy was on your show and he said, john Buchanan.
Host
And I went, whoa, I haven't heard that name in a while.
Host
It's just easier to say and easier to spell.
Speaker C
Isn't.
Speaker C
But isn't Jamingo like a.
Host
Like a sniff?
Host
Like one of those that I know of?
Host
She just said, John Jamingo.
Host
And I said, oh, I like that.
Host
I'll use John Jamingo as a.
Host
As a radio name.
Host
You guys don't even use your last names.
Speaker C
No, nobody needs to know my last.
Speaker B
Name if I don't.
Host
You don't use your last name on here.
Host
Matter of fact, I use your last name.
Host
You yell at them.
Speaker B
Doug Rhodes and Ant Hill.
Host
Oh, okay.
Host
That's right.
Host
I'm sorry.
Host
I forgot.
Host
I'll be honest with you.
Host
I don't even know Anthony's last name.
Speaker B
Hill.
Speaker B
Fuck.
Host
It's not Hill.
Speaker C
Why.
Speaker C
Why would you say it's not?
Host
Because I do now.
Host
I just remembered your last name.
Speaker B
Hill.
Host
It's not.
Speaker B
It is.
Host
That's our baby.
Speaker B
What in the fuck are you doing?
Speaker B
We have spent four fucking years convincing our audience what our last names are.
Speaker B
No, I know.
Speaker B
I've written you address.
Host
None of your audience believes that they're your last name.
Host
Just so you know, your audience is smarter than that.
Host
Not by much, but your audience is just a little bit smarter than that.
Speaker B
Do you know how many messages I've got every time that I've said when I've referenced Doug Rhodes?
Speaker B
How many emails I get to say, hey, I don't know if, you know, you doxed yourself.
Speaker B
And I don't know why the you would come on here, and I don't either blow up my spot like that.
Host
No, I'm in a humiliation.
Host
That's why I came on here.
Host
It's my new thing.
Speaker C
New thing?
Speaker C
I think that's been.
Speaker C
It's been that way all along.
Host
Oh, maybe a.
Speaker B
There's nothing worse than a sad Jerseyan.
Speaker C
Oh, I'm.
Speaker C
I'm curious why you feel like you can't have the talk to Duchess the same way you talk to us.
Host
She's a.
Host
Because it's a woman you can't talk to.
Host
Okay, so in discord.
Host
Wait a minute.
Host
I'll just say this in Discord.
Host
There was someone in there called Marshmello, and she's probably in your Discord too.
Host
And I thought Marshmallow was a guy, and we would get into, like, arguments and all, and I got into such an argument with them that I banned her from my discord for whatever reason, probably me.
Host
I was having a bad day and I was an asshole.
Host
So I banned her from her discord.
Host
She went to another discord and started yelling at me.
Host
And I was over there reading it like a bitch.
Host
And I found out she was a woman.
Host
And as soon as I found out she was a woman, I felt like I needed to apologize because I was talking to her like she was a man and you don't talk to her.
Speaker B
That's a you fucking problem.
Speaker C
100% a you problem.
Host
Right.
Host
So I went over and apologized.
Speaker C
For what?
Host
Don't put that.
Host
Don't put Duchess's what the fuck up there.
Speaker B
But.
Speaker C
But don't you think that you should examine that in yourself?
Speaker C
Like a little bit of reflection?
Speaker C
Like why?
Host
No.
Host
Why would you treat a woman?
Host
Why would you treat a woman?
Host
I don't listen.
Speaker C
I was raised the same as a man.
Host
Yes, you can't.
Host
They're the fair sex.
Host
You can't.
Host
They cry and shit.
Host
You can't.
Host
I can't stand it when women cry.
Speaker B
Okay, the first thing that you have to figure out is what type of show do you want to create?
Host
I'm just going to let Duchess figure it out.
Host
I'll just do what she.
Host
I'm her co host anyhow.
Speaker C
So they're the fairest sex, but you're being the bitch.
Speaker C
I don't understand.
Host
That hurts.
Host
Having Anthony call me a bitch, that hurts.
Speaker C
But God damn, I'll let her figure it out.
Speaker C
Like what?
Speaker C
It's your show too, right?
Host
Yes, it is my show, but it's.
Host
Apparently I do everything wrong.
Host
I bring up clips, I talk from, I say I'm from New Jersey.
Host
Everything I do is wrong.
Host
So I might as well just let Duchess to it.
Speaker B
Welcome to the Breast dis bunker with Touches and John.
Host
The breast is bunker.
Speaker C
That's pretty funny.
Speaker C
I just talk to her like she's a fucking person, dude.
Speaker C
You don't have to talk to her.
Host
Like she's a person that just fucking around.
Host
The worst part about this is half of this is fuckery and the other half of it's serious and it's going to take a while to figure out which is which.
Speaker B
I'll let you know.
Speaker C
Yeah, I was gonna say it won't.
Host
Take very long, I'm sure, but it won't be.
Host
You know what?
Host
It won't be on the show.
Host
It won't be on the show.
Host
I don't know why she won't do it on the show.
Host
I Guarantee you.
Host
Because we'll be doing a Thursday night.
Host
And this is what we're opening with.
Host
This is our opening topic.
Host
What the fuck are we doing here?
Host
And why am I the bitch?
Speaker C
And then as soon as the mics come on and the show starts, you guys just like, oh, Trump.
Speaker B
What?
Speaker B
Oh, that boxing match.
Speaker B
I wanted to watch a boxing match.
Host
All right.
Host
I'm trying to figure.
Host
And I hate my.
Host
You know, the other thing is I can't stand that I have no short term memory anymore, so.
Host
Because I'm trying to figure out what the last two shows that you guys did so I could bust your balls on your topics, and I can't think of it.
Speaker B
We don't know either.
Speaker C
I don't know either.
Speaker C
It's fine.
Host
Exactly.
Speaker C
Just make something up.
Speaker B
You know what?
Speaker B
We had fun doing it, right?
Host
I'm having fun doing this.
Host
I'm having a problem right now.
Host
Yes.
Host
I'm actually.
Host
If I would.
Host
If I wasn't having fun, I wouldn't be here right now.
Host
I knew this was how this was going to go.
Host
It's this way every time we get together and talk.
Host
And it's a.
Host
It's a lot of fun.
Host
I don't mind it.
Host
I love to hear feedback from Doug.
Host
And Anthony won't say anything because he's a bitch.
Speaker B
He called you a bitch.
Host
I mean, that was the hardest one.
Host
Like, Doug can yell at me and tell me I'm untowarded and a piece of shit and all that.
Host
And then Anthony calls me a bitch, and now I want to fight him.
Speaker C
You already told me you can't hold your own.
Host
I think I could still beat your ass.
Speaker B
Pussy.
Speaker B
Maybe John's lashing out now.
Host
That's because I'm from Jersey, baby.
Speaker C
Oh, God.
Host
No, I am.
Host
I'm at a crossroads right now.
Host
I don't even know how much longer I can do this.
Host
I listen to.
Host
I go back and listen to old shows that I've done on Brand X, and it's a.
Host
I'm a totally different person than I am now, so I don't know.
Speaker B
You spend way too much time listening to yourself.
Host
How do you get better then?
Host
How do you get better?
Speaker B
Not by sitting there listening to yourself and critique everything.
Host
I disagree.
Host
You have to listen to yourself.
Speaker B
Oh, you don't.
Speaker C
I haven't listened to one of our shows in years.
Host
Okay.
Host
I think that you have to go back and listen to yourself and see if you're.
Host
If you're entertaining.
Host
If you're entertaining yourself, your audience will.
Speaker C
Tell you if you're entertaining.
Host
Well, it's not working, so now I gotta figure something out.
Speaker B
No, no, they're.
Speaker B
They're telling you.
Speaker C
I think it is.
Host
Maybe you should just come on topless.
Host
That'll bring some people around.
Speaker B
No, I want you to come on topic list.
Speaker B
I want you to.
Speaker B
I want you to Come on.
Speaker B
I want you to do your next show without a outline of eight hours of prep.
Host
Good.
Host
Then I'll have something that.
Host
I'll have a whole day that I can go do something else.
Host
That's fine.
Host
All right.
Host
Thursday night at 6:30, you guys can come out there and watch me flounder without any topics.
Speaker B
No, I didn't say don't have topics.
Speaker B
I said don't spend eight hours preparing.
Host
Okay, I will do that.
Host
I will let Duchess pick the topics.
Speaker B
That's not fucking.
Host
I'll pick the topics.
Speaker C
Jesus Christ.
Host
I'll pick the topics and then we'll.
Host
We'll talk about things.
Speaker C
The point is to be spontaneous.
Speaker C
Try being spontaneous.
Host
All right.
Speaker B
I'm trying to think if I could get away, if I can share the Trello board.
Host
You can.
Speaker B
Without giving away my last name being Rhodes.
Speaker C
Oh.
Host
I'm sorry, Mr.
Host
Rhodes.
Host
I had no idea.
Speaker B
So anyway, all I was going to say is through the week, whether it's on social media or I'm looking at news sites or whatever, if we see an article that we think could be something worth discussing, we throw it on the board.
Host
Are you teaching me something?
Host
I told you guys back in 2017, I told you how to do that.
Speaker B
Then you know.
Speaker B
What?
Host
How do you know?
Host
Do you.
Host
How do you know to have a Trello board?
Speaker B
It sounds like you got it.
Speaker B
It sounds like you've got it under control.
Speaker B
I don't need to say anything.
Host
I don't even use it anymore.
Host
We have our own Discord server that we use.
Speaker C
Can we.
Speaker C
Can we bring Duchess on to yell at John?
Host
Sure, bring her on.
Host
I'm sure she can be.
Host
She's dying to get on right now.
Host
Send her a link.
Speaker C
You want me to send her opinion on you basically calling her out for being.
Speaker C
Send her lesser sex.
Host
How do I do this?
Speaker B
I don't have a way of sending it to her.
Host
I know.
Host
How do I send her this link?
Host
Copy.
Host
Try.
Speaker B
Hang on.
Host
I'll send it to her.
Host
I know she's listening.
Host
She's got to be listening.
Speaker C
It's copy and paste.
Host
There we go.
Speaker B
Oh, wait a minute.
Speaker B
I can send it to her on Twitter.
Speaker B
All right, you got it.
Speaker B
Are you.
Host
I'm trying to copy it.
Host
It's not.
Host
It's not going.
Speaker B
Anthony.
Host
Yeah.
Speaker B
I got it.
Host
Oh, okay.
Host
I got it.
Host
I'm sorry.
Host
She's got.
Host
She's got it, like, five times.
Host
There we go.
Speaker C
Intermission.
Host
Let me pay the.
Host
The girls from Empanada.
Speaker B
No.
Host
Yeah.
Host
I'm dying.
Host
This should be fun.
Host
I can get yelled at by three people.
Host
This will be great.
Speaker C
I know.
Speaker B
I hope.
Speaker C
People and a woman, John.
Host
Well, a man and two women.
Speaker B
I wonder if this is going to be the downfall of Bunker.
Speaker C
I hope not.
Speaker C
I hope we don't ruin their show.
Speaker B
That'd be awesome.
Speaker B
We took care of Brand X, and.
Host
Then I took care of Brand X.
Host
I was.
Host
You guys had nothing to do with Brandex.
Host
I don't know why.
Host
I took down all.
Host
I took down Brandex, I took down Rubberneckers.
Host
I've destroyed more shows.
Speaker B
I'm gonna.
Speaker B
I'm gonna see if I can send a message to Bob and see if he wants to come on, too.
Speaker C
You might as well get Carl on here, too.
Speaker B
Carl?
Speaker C
Jeez.
Host
I'm not.
Speaker B
Deuce's phone number.
Speaker B
I can send him a link.
Host
Deuce won't come on.
Speaker C
Jesus Christ.
Host
Might be in the chat.
Host
Where's she at?
Host
She didn't read it yet.
Host
I don't see her.
Host
I don't see her in here.
Speaker B
She's smashing her microphone.
Host
She's trying to.
Speaker C
She's so mad at you.
Host
Yeah, she's so mad, she won't even come on.
Host
Let me see.
Host
All right, I guess that's it.
Host
I guess we're done.
Host
She's not gonna come on.
Host
I tell you, I tried.
Host
Tried to make the show better by taking myself out of it.
Speaker B
Well, I hope that helped.
Speaker B
Bye, everybody.
Speaker C
Oh, Jesus christ.
Host
Thursday night, 6:30.
Host
Watch me fly without a net.
Speaker C
She's on her way, she said.
Host
Oh, okay, okay.
Host
She's on her way.
Host
She's probably all on her jammies and everything.
Speaker B
It's just me.
Speaker B
Says John.
Speaker B
Always says he's having fun, but I never believe it for a second.
Speaker B
Good.
Host
Then it's working.
Speaker C
What's working?
Host
I don't know.
Speaker B
So this appears to be a shot at Jersey.
Speaker B
Seba says.
Speaker B
I don't know what you guys expected from nimrods who can't pump their own gas.
Speaker B
I don't know why Georgie couldn't give them back to the British.
Host
You say that, but I was.
Host
I pumped gas from the time I was 12 years old.
Speaker B
Ooh, that's so impressive.
Host
It's not like it's hard.
Host
It's not like it's Hard to pump gas.
Host
Women pump gas.
Host
Okay?
Host
How hard can it be?
Host
It's not that hard.
Speaker C
Oh, my God.
Host
We just don't.
Speaker B
Oh, I'll wait till she gets her camera up.
Speaker B
Sounded like something's going on over there.
Host
Oh, no.
Host
What happened to the camera?
Speaker B
Duchess, I'm here.
Host
How come you have no camera?
Duchess
Because I'm coming in through Streamyard, and I haven't set up the.
Speaker B
All right.
Duchess
Since someone sent me a new camera.
Duchess
Hang on.
Duchess
I'm adjusting it now.
Speaker B
I'm gonna put you backstage until you get figured out.
Speaker B
See?
Speaker B
Talk to women.
Speaker B
Get in the back.
Host
Get your camera straight down.
Host
Let's go.
Host
Snap.
Host
Snap.
Host
So I taught you better than this.
Speaker B
Be prepared, John.
Speaker B
The key is, when you're podcasting, it is just a guest or a person.
Speaker B
You don't treat one more special than the other.
Host
Thank God.
Duchess
All you bastards.
Duchess
I mean, seriously.
Speaker B
What the fuck did I do?
Duchess
What is going on?
Duchess
I look like shit, so.
Speaker B
Oh, my God.
Duchess
But, yeah, I was not in my pajammies, but thank you.
Duchess
So, yeah, thank you for deciding the fate of the show for the.
Host
The future.
Duchess
I'm not sure where we're going, mister.
Host
I told you our last show sucked.
Duchess
Oh, it's a therapy session.
Duchess
Is this group therapy?
Duchess
Is this couples therapy?
Duchess
Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker B
All right, so I don't want this to get.
Duchess
No, it's not.
Speaker B
I don't want this to get Ally.
Speaker B
And just a bunch of screaming and hollering or anything, but.
Duchess
Not at all.
Speaker B
Duchess, I would like to.
Speaker B
First, welcome to the show.
Speaker B
Second, thank you.
Speaker B
What is it?
Speaker B
What responses do you have?
Speaker B
To what?
Speaker B
Anything that John said me.
Host
Doug said.
Speaker B
John, you've.
Speaker B
You've had your opportunity to talk.
Speaker B
Shut the fuck up.
Duchess
You have been talking for 45 minutes.
Duchess
So, yeah, I think.
Duchess
I think I can jump on.
Duchess
So I do think that John preps a lot for our show, and I appreciate all his hard work.
Duchess
He does bust his ass for this show, so.
Duchess
And me coming on as brand new, never podcasted before.
Duchess
You know, I'm.
Duchess
I don't want to say I'm following the lead.
Duchess
I have made suggestions and we've made changes, and I think we have a good working relationship with that.
Duchess
But that being said, we.
Duchess
There has been discussion as to playing a lot of videos and things like that.
Duchess
I do like the idea of maybe cutting that back.
Duchess
John and I have had that conversation.
Duchess
Okay, stop.
Speaker B
None of this addresses the question that I asked you.
Speaker B
What are your responses to what John just said?
Duchess
And I do disagree with some of it with A lot of what you've.
Host
Been saying disagree with the part where.
Speaker C
You said you hate women.
Duchess
Well, that part definitely sucks.
Duchess
I disagree with all of that.
Duchess
I came on here so quickly, it was easier to sit in the comments and yell at you.
Host
Would you like me to treat you like I treated Boomer Bob?
Duchess
Well, I don't act like Boomer Bob.
Speaker B
Stop.
Speaker B
I'm going to facilitate the conversation because you guys are killing our show.
Host
This is your fault.
Duchess
You dragged us on here, buddy.
Speaker B
Okay, Duchess, do you want.
Speaker B
Do you need to be handled with kid gloves?
Duchess
No.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
John, can you quit being a bitch?
Host
Okay, gloves are off.
Host
That is fine.
Duchess
Okay.
Host
Okay, here we go.
Speaker B
I wear their gloves.
Duchess
I'm just saying, you know, if you really have flex.
Duchess
You're flexing too much, gentlemen.
Duchess
I mean, really.
Duchess
Jersey.
Host
That's the title of the show.
Host
We're from Jersey.
Speaker B
Why?
Speaker B
Why.
Speaker C
Why did you think that you needed to handle her with kid gloves?
Host
Stop it.
Host
Why don't you have any women on your show?
Host
It's just a different thing.
Host
It's different.
Speaker B
I think we're talking to one right now.
Host
We're gonna find out.
Duchess
Thank you.
Host
I'll tell you what.
Host
We're gonna find out Thursday.
Host
We're gonna definitely find out Thursday.
Host
See how.
Host
How it goes.
Speaker C
I'm all the court.
Host
I don't care.
Speaker C
You do care.
Duchess
John is being a gentleman.
Duchess
I under.
Duchess
I understand it, but that's not a gentleman.
Speaker C
It's not a gentlemanly thing to do to treat women differently.
Speaker C
It's not.
Speaker B
Treat women like kids.
Speaker B
That's what John's saying.
Speaker B
That's what John's saying.
Speaker B
You off.
Speaker C
It's.
Speaker C
It's not.
Speaker C
It's not gentlemanly to think that women need to be treated with kid gloves because they can't handle being talked to like a normal.
Speaker B
They're not black, John.
Duchess
Well, I think on that.
Duchess
I think the relationships that John has had with his previous co hosts, I think he's referencing.
Duchess
That's not the relationship we should have, but definitely equal partner.
Duchess
And you don't have to handle me with kid gloves, but I honestly didn't think you were doing it.
Host
I can't wait till Thursday.
Host
I can't wait.
Speaker C
You came on.
Duchess
Shit, talk me for 40 minutes.
Speaker B
So, like he said, it's nothing against Duchess, but I've got this list prepared of 27 things.
Speaker B
Okay?
Speaker B
So, John, you say, I can't wait till Thursday.
Speaker B
Hold on, hold on, Duchess.
Speaker B
John, you said, I can't wait till Thursday.
Speaker B
So it sounds like you have things pent up that you want to unload, which is not the right way to go about it.
Host
That's not true.
Host
No, because we talk.
Host
Honestly, we talk about everything.
Host
I even told her today that the show we did on Monday was shit and I didn't like it.
Host
And we.
Host
She.
Host
We talked too much over each other.
Host
We had a whole.
Duchess
We don't talk over each other.
Host
See, this is what I put up with.
Host
No, just kidding.
Speaker B
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker B
What happens when me and Anthony talk over each other?
Host
I don't know.
Speaker B
One of us tells the other one to shut the fuck up.
Speaker B
Right?
Host
Okay.
Duchess
Oh, okay.
Host
Let me write that down.
Duchess
I'm gonna write that down.
Speaker C
Write that down.
Speaker C
I'm talking over here.
Duchess
Thank you for giving me my Jersey script.
Duchess
I'm talking.
Duchess
Okay.
Duchess
Anything else?
Speaker B
Here, here, here.
Host
Talking.
Duchess
It's talking.
Duchess
You gotta get it right.
Speaker B
Talking here.
Speaker C
I hope we didn't just ruin your show.
Speaker C
I hope that we just made it better.
Duchess
Not a bitch.
Duchess
I can handle it.
Duchess
Thank you.
Host
I tell you, the one thing.
Host
Well, the one thing that's driving me crazy.
Host
I can't get rid of that stupid echo on her side.
Host
It's driving me insane.
Host
Where I'm almost ready to go back to Streamyard again to see if it makes a difference.
Duchess
Well, if we're not doing all this prep with eCamm, probably.
Host
Exactly.
Host
We're just going to go right back and it's going to be a blank fucking black screen behind us, and that's it.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
So again, I was adamant that we had to get away from Streamyard because I fucking hate it.
Speaker B
I fucking hate Streamyard.
Duchess
Right.
Speaker B
And we did an episode using eCamm, and it's so fucking distracting.
Speaker B
And it's.
Speaker B
It's.
Speaker B
You can do neater things with it, you can do better things with it.
Speaker B
You can make a more visually appealing show, but it takes away from the flow of the show, and that's what we care about, is the flow of the show.
Host
Yeah.
Host
You're not wrong.
Host
As far as you know is.
Host
I wanted to be.
Host
I always said that it was the video.
Host
We were recording the audio part of our podcast, but then it turned into, we're now catering to the video part of it.
Host
So you're not wrong.
Speaker B
So as an example, and I think this is what happens in your head, and I'm going back to a previous part of the conversation.
Speaker B
I know that you have to build scenes.
Speaker B
Like you have a clip that you want to play.
Speaker B
You have to build a scene around that clip, right?
Host
Yes.
Host
Okay.
Host
Okay.
Host
Yes.
Speaker B
So if you have five or six clips that you want to play through the episode.
Speaker B
You have to build those five or six scenes.
Speaker B
So now it's locked in your head.
Speaker B
I'm going to play them fucking scenes because I put some work into them.
Speaker B
That's.
Host
That's not true.
Host
But.
Host
Okay, because there's not.
Speaker B
I watched your fucking.
Speaker B
This last episode.
Host
Hang on.
Speaker B
You cut her off in the middle of a sentence and said, I've got this clip.
Host
All right, hang on a second.
Host
I'm just going to tell you.
Host
I'm going to tell you how many video scenes I have.
Speaker B
I don't give a fuck.
Host
Shut up.
Speaker C
Fuck.
Speaker B
You're not.
Speaker B
You're not listening.
Host
I had 32.
Host
I had 32 scenes for the last episode.
Host
I probably only used 15 of them, but they were ready if I needed them.
Speaker B
Okay?
Speaker B
It doesn't change the fact that you cut her off mid sentence, okay?
Speaker B
Because to play the next clip, she.
Host
Was going on and on, and it was getting boring.
Host
And she was mumbling.
Host
She wasn't saying anything.
Host
So I just.
Speaker B
You're full of liver.
Host
Well, again, I.
Host
Now I can't tell you what I was thinking.
Host
She was in there mumbling about something, and I.
Host
And I'm like, okay, she's lost it.
Host
I'm going to redirect her into something else.
Host
So then I went on to something else.
Speaker B
Okay, you were correct.
Speaker C
Stop.
Speaker B
Now, stop that.
Speaker B
That's perfectly fine to have that thought.
Speaker B
I have that thought with Anthony when he starts rambling.
Host
Okay?
Speaker B
And what do I do?
Speaker B
I tell him.
Speaker C
I don't ramble.
Speaker B
No, I don't.
Speaker B
I don't.
Speaker B
I tell you.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker B
Like, okay, what's the point of that?
Speaker B
The same thing you do to me.
Host
Okay, I was just being nicer.
Speaker B
But you.
Speaker B
No, you weren't being nicer.
Speaker B
You were being dismissive.
Speaker B
You were saying in one motion, you told her, I don't give a.
Speaker B
What you're talking about.
Speaker B
I don't care what your point is.
Speaker B
I'm moving on to the next thing.
Speaker B
You are irrelevant.
Speaker B
That's what you said by cutting her off and playing the clip.
Speaker B
What you should have said is.
Speaker B
Yeah, you're.
Speaker B
You're going way off topic.
Speaker B
What's your point?
Speaker B
That's what you should have said.
Speaker B
Okay, Duchess, I.
Speaker B
I'm right.
Speaker B
I know I'm right.
Host
See what happens?
Host
See what happens?
Host
As soon as you did that, she got all quiet.
Host
No, she can't handle it.
Speaker B
He was not quiet.
Speaker B
He was nothing to do with.
Speaker B
Just a part.
Host
Staring at each other.
Speaker B
It has nothing to do with her.
Speaker B
Okay?
Host
Somebody say something.
Speaker B
I commanded the audience, and the audience listened, right?
Speaker B
And when.
Speaker B
If she said something right now, if she started interrupting me, I would say, hey, I'm in the middle of a thought.
Speaker B
I'm going to finish.
Speaker B
I wouldn't say, hey, you've got tits.
Speaker B
I'm going to shut up now.
Speaker C
Are you talking to me?
Duchess
Is that how it works?
Host
Three people here?
Host
There's four people here with tits.
Host
Which tits are you talking about?
Speaker B
Welcome to the booby bunker.
Speaker C
Oh, no.
Duchess
If I'm R.A.
Duchess
and you certainly have no problem cutting me off, you've done it in the past and have thrown a few zingers out, letting me know.
Duchess
I can be annoyed and be pissed about it, but we'll still move on.
Host
But she gets.
Host
She gets in a mood.
Host
She, Me.
Host
Me.
Duchess
I'm here.
Host
Duchess gets in a mood.
Host
Excuse me?
Host
Duchess gets in a mood when I fly like that.
Host
She doesn't go with the flow, as you're going to find out Thursday.
Speaker C
Dude, dude, dude.
Speaker C
She's talking to you and you're talking to us about her when she's sitting right fucking here.
Speaker C
Talk to her.
Speaker C
I don't understand.
Speaker C
I can't understand what's going through your head right now.
Duchess
Poor John.
Host
First of all, Doug just said what he was going to say, and I watched her shut down.
Host
I watched her.
Speaker B
Did he tell John to shut up?
Duchess
Oh, my goodness.
Host
No one's going to listen.
Host
This is the worst bonus show ever.
Speaker B
Jesus Christ.
Host
I destroy every podcast I go on.
Speaker C
This is amazing.
Host
Can I have the audience.
Duchess
Can I put this on our show?
Duchess
Good Lord, no.
Duchess
No, I'm listening.
Duchess
I'm focusing on what you're saying.
Duchess
That's it.
Duchess
When Doug was speaking, I was listening to what he was saying, getting to the end of the sentence.
Host
And how long do you wait until you respond to that?
Speaker B
That's how conversations work, John.
Speaker C
Right?
Speaker C
Do you have.
Speaker C
You never had a conversation with somebody?
Speaker B
You know what it is?
Speaker B
You know what it is?
Speaker B
Is that John listens to.
Speaker B
John listens to have a response.
Speaker B
He doesn't listen to understand.
Duchess
No, I disagree.
Duchess
I disagree.
Speaker B
Shut up, Duchess.
Duchess
John is of the school of radio.
Duchess
It's the silence that is true.
Host
Like, I can't handle silence.
Speaker B
No, no, no, no.
Speaker B
I.
Speaker B
I don't give a.
Speaker B
If he's from the school of.
Duchess
That's the school.
Speaker B
I don't give a.
Speaker B
What.
Speaker B
What I'm saying is, when I was talking to him about his stories and that he builds these scenes and all, I went through that whole thing.
Speaker B
He stopped listening.
Speaker B
He Wasn't.
Speaker B
He was listening to respond.
Speaker B
He went.
Speaker B
He just waited for my breath to stop or for my.
Speaker B
My voice to stop so he could say I built 76 scenes and I only used 42 of them.
Speaker B
He didn't care about the fact that I made a good point in that he cut you off to play the next video.
Host
Hey, can I ask you a stupid question?
Speaker B
He doesn't fucking listen.
Speaker C
I'm gonna.
Host
I'm gonna ask it anyhow.
Duchess
He's redirecting.
Host
Why?
Host
Why did you use eCamm?
Host
Why did you start using eCamm?
Speaker B
Because I wanted a better visual element to the show.
Host
And where did you get that idea from?
Host
You can say it.
Host
Me.
Host
That's where you got it from.
Host
I was using it.
Host
Then all of a sudden you started using it.
Host
Don't sit here and tell me about how all of a sudden.
Host
I know you know how to do that.
Host
All.
Host
You copy everything I do.
Host
The Trello board.
Host
You started when he came.
Host
He couldn't figure it out.
Host
You're back in the stream yard.
Host
Oh, give me that.
Speaker B
That's the.
Speaker B
You're gonna die on.
Speaker B
This is the hill you're gonna die on, huh?
Speaker C
So it's not just me.
Speaker C
That's not threatening or anything.
Speaker C
It's.
Speaker B
I'm from Jersey, baby.
Speaker C
That's what I heard.
Duchess
That is our governor.
Duchess
I'm coming into the show on Thursday and it's just gonna be silence.
Duchess
There's gonna be no music, no nothing.
Host
Be like, well, no, I care about.
Host
I care about our 25 people that listen to us way more to allow that to happen.
Speaker C
I think you should.
Speaker C
That's good.
Speaker C
That's the right attitude to have.
Host
Thank you, Big Anthony.
Host
I'm so glad you appreciate.
Host
On how I value my audience.
Duchess
Sacrifice for them.
Speaker B
So 1.
Speaker B
Anthony was giving you a.
Speaker B
I guess I knew.
Host
I know what he was doing.
Host
You know how to explain it to me?
Host
I'm not stupid.
Host
I'm from Jersey.
Speaker B
I think you're selling yourself short, John.
Speaker C
You.
Speaker C
You.
Speaker C
You were cutting yourself down by saying, I care about the 25 listeners.
Speaker C
The 25 part.
Speaker C
Like you're cutting your.
Speaker C
You're undercutting yourself while trying to pretend like you care about them.
Speaker C
You should care about them even if there's only 25 of them.
Speaker B
Good.
Speaker C
That's.
Speaker C
Make a show for those fucking 25 people.
Speaker C
That's the best show you can make for those 25 people that fucking listen.
Speaker C
Who cares if it's only 25?
Duchess
Hey, goals.
Duchess
26, right?
Speaker C
Make it 26 next time.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker B
So here's here's the fucking problem, John.
Host
And you.
Speaker B
You have not absorbed what I said.
Speaker B
You are making a show for the people that watch live, not for the majority of podcast listeners that listen to audio.
Speaker B
Your only focus is on that number of views that you get on your videos.
Host
Is that wrong?
Speaker B
Yes, that's wrong.
Speaker B
If you're making an audio podcast, you stupid son of a.
Speaker C
Of course.
Host
Of course I'm gonna ask Duchess.
Host
Is that wrong?
Host
Duchess, do you believe that?
Host
What?
Host
Do you believe them?
Duchess
Let me get.
Duchess
Can you restate your question?
Host
Is it wrong to do the show for the people that are in the chat?
Duchess
I don't think so, but we are able.
Duchess
But if we're able to make.
Duchess
No, if we're able to make some of the adjustments that were suggested.
Speaker B
No, you can't.
Speaker B
You can't.
Speaker B
You can't.
Duchess
Why can't we.
Speaker B
You can't make a show specific to the people in the chat without adjusting your way out of making a show specific to the people in the chat.
Speaker B
So if you want to make a show for the people in the chat, then do that.
Speaker B
And.
Speaker B
And, yeah, I'll shut the up.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker C
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C
It depends.
Speaker C
You have to decide what you want.
Speaker C
If you have.
Speaker C
I don't know what your numbers are, but you have 25 people that listen live, right?
Speaker C
That's fine, but I'm just.
Speaker C
Just throwing out numbers.
Speaker C
You have 25 people that listen live, and on top of that, you have 500 people that listen to your show afterwards not live, and you're tailoring your show to those 25 people.
Speaker C
Wrong.
Speaker C
It's wrong.
Speaker C
Unless that that's what you specifically are setting out to do, you're doing it wrong.
Host
Duchess.
Host
Don't shake your head.
Host
It's an audio podcast.
Duchess
Well, it made sense.
Duchess
Okay, Anthony, credit on that for sure.
Host
And burning it all down Thursday.
Duchess
Don't take the feed down.
Duchess
Don't disassemble anything.
Host
Do you know how much time I'm gonna have?
Host
I'll be able to eat dinner, and this is gonna be amazing.
Host
Well, I can't wait.
Speaker B
Okay, I know one thing.
Speaker C
It sounds like you're being sarcastic to me.
Speaker C
I know one thing.
Speaker B
I'm tuning in on Thursday.
Host
I spend a term of time getting things ready to be yelled.
Duchess
I know.
Host
So it.
Host
I am not doing so.
Speaker B
You're not.
Speaker B
You're not go yourself, you crybaby thin skin.
Host
You said I take too long to do the show.
Host
It doesn't make it your prison crybaby finish.
Host
I'm not crying.
Host
I'm listening.
Host
To what?
Host
You?
Speaker B
All the time in the world.
Speaker B
I can eat something I don't have to do.
Speaker B
Wait till Thursday.
Speaker B
I'm going to get in her ass.
Host
I'm not.
Host
I'm going to do a show.
Speaker C
You're not listening.
Speaker C
It's obvious that you're not absorbing what we're saying, right?
Speaker C
Your response is fuck it.
Speaker C
If your response is fuck it, you're not listening.
Host
It's not fuck it.
Host
It's I'm going a different route.
Speaker B
That's a quote.
Host
Well, what do I know?
Host
So this is what I'm telling you, that we're going to take the show in a different direction and see what happens.
Host
And if it fucking burns to the ground, I'm blaming both of you fucking morons.
Duchess
Well, again, am I present in this conversation?
Host
No.
Host
Did I address you?
Host
I didn't address you.
Host
I was talking to the other two.
Host
I can have a conversation with them, too, while you're being here.
Host
And not address you.
Host
Right.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
So it is not a 5050 show.
Duchess
It's now our show.
Duchess
Yes.
Duchess
I should be part of this conversation.
Duchess
If it's your show, then I guess I'm not.
Host
Oh, we're gonna have a conversation.
Speaker C
Trust me.
Host
We're gonna have a conversation after this to figure out how this show's gonna go.
Speaker C
Seriously, what is wrong with you, dude?
Host
I don't know.
Host
I'm retarded.
Duchess
You're not retarded.
Speaker B
He is retarded.
Speaker B
He is full blown fucking retarded.
Speaker C
Oh, we're gonna have a talk.
Host
We're gonna have conversation.
Duchess
We're gonna have.
Host
Am I gonna walk into.
Speaker C
He's gonna hit you when you get home.
Host
I got a.
Host
I got a fucking bar of soap and a sock waiting for you.
Duchess
Can't wait.
Duchess
I'm on my fucking way.
Duchess
You ain't scaring me.
Speaker B
Yeah, you.
Duchess
I'm from Jersey.
Speaker B
I'm from Jersey.
Speaker B
Okay, so, John, do you have.
Speaker B
And I need you to answer this honestly, okay?
Speaker B
You do.
Speaker B
You do 100% of the prep for the show.
Duchess
He does a majority of it.
Duchess
Yes.
Host
I was going to say yes, but I didn't want to insult Duchess.
Host
Hold on.
Host
No, that's not true.
Host
She puts stories.
Host
She does what Anthony does.
Speaker B
Okay, so then that my.
Speaker B
My follow up was.
Speaker B
Do you have resentment about that?
Host
No.
Duchess
No.
Speaker B
Then she doesn't do what Anthony does.
Speaker C
Beautiful.
Duchess
Well, the problem is I.
Duchess
First of all, I don't have quite the setup that John has.
Duchess
But second of all, no, no, no, no, no.
Host
The way.
Speaker B
That was fucking dumb.
Speaker B
Duchess, you're Telling me that you don't spend any time on the Internet and you don't see an article that you.
Duchess
No, that's not what I'm saying.
Duchess
What I'm saying is I don't have the setup that John has to create the scenes.
Host
We're not doing scenes anymore.
Host
Fuck those scenes.
Duchess
No fucking shit, Sherlock.
Duchess
Let me get my fucking sentence out.
Duchess
God damn it.
Speaker C
So amazing.
Duchess
Thank you for the couples therapy.
Duchess
Now, what it is, is John would do all the prep work and for creating the scenes and all that, because the software only allows for the one user anyway.
Duchess
When it was.
Duchess
When Streamyard, where we had that other sections, I was able to.
Speaker B
So did you ever send him a video and say, hey, please make a scene for this?
Duchess
I share videos.
Duchess
Yeah.
Duchess
I do prep work.
Duchess
I would least suggest things where we would share stories.
Host
She sends me shit from Facebook and I can't pull a video from Facebook.
Duchess
Oh, my fucking God.
Duchess
Serious?
Speaker B
Hilarious.
Host
She can send me.
Speaker B
Cool.
Duchess
More viewers.
Speaker B
Okay, Now I'm gonna make a suggestion.
Speaker B
There is free websites out there that you can take videos from.
Speaker B
And you should tell her to do this like that.
Speaker C
If John.
Speaker B
If you and I were a co.
Speaker B
Host.
Speaker B
Co host.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker B
We tried this, and I sent you videos from Facebook and said, hey, I want to talk about this.
Speaker B
You would.
Speaker B
You would immediately say, I can't play Facebook video, so don't send.
Speaker B
I'm not going to do anything with them.
Host
Did I do that?
Speaker B
Duchess here, there is a website that you can use that will convert it.
Speaker B
I'm talking.
Speaker B
There's a website that you can convert the Facebook videos into, like an MP4 or whatever it is that John needs.
Duchess
Right?
Speaker B
So you should be doing that.
Speaker B
If you got a.
Speaker B
If you got a video from a source that he can't make a scene out of easily, then convert it and send it to him.
Duchess
Okay, I know he has said.
Duchess
He has said in the past that he has a hard time because that's why I don't share a lot of the Instagram stuff, because.
Speaker C
Right.
Duchess
And we don't have access to it.
Speaker C
That's what is.
Speaker C
Is crazy.
Speaker C
If you just said if you and Doug were doing a show together and Doug sent you a link that didn't work, you would say that didn't work.
Speaker C
Can you send me it in a different form?
Speaker C
But with.
Speaker C
With Duchess, you're just like, oh, well, she's not smart enough to figure it out.
Speaker C
I guess I'll do it for her.
Speaker C
You're not treating her the same as you would treat someone else.
Speaker C
Right?
Speaker B
Are you trying to podcast with her or her.
Duchess
Oh, my God.
Host
Podcast with her.
Speaker B
It took a long time to answer.
Duchess
John, shut up.
Host
Listen, don't stop.
Host
The line is so long.
Host
Of podcasts walking into her pants.
Duchess
No.
Duchess
Oh, my God.
Host
See, I'm sitting right here, Right?
Duchess
Like, I can hear this.
Host
Absolutely.
Host
It's the longest.
Host
Bruce.
Speaker C
There's Tom, there's making up names.
Host
It's the truth.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker B
All right, bye.
Speaker C
All right, we got Happy to see dysfunction in other podcast relationships tonight.
Duchess
You're welcome.
Speaker B
Okay, so we've got to wrap this up.
Speaker B
Anthony has to go to work.
Speaker B
Thank you guys for coming on.
Speaker B
I encourage everybody to go.
Speaker B
You're on Rumble and Twitch, right?
Host
Twitch, Twitter, Facebook.
Duchess
Yeah.
Duchess
YouTube.com.
Speaker B
And you guys, you lost your YouTube channel right?
Host
Now we got another one back.
Host
We backdoored in nobody.
Speaker B
Okay, so why don't you.
Duchess
We do.
Speaker C
We.
Duchess
We do promote.
Speaker B
Did you just say nobody cares?
Host
Nobody cares that we had our channel taken down, so we just made another one?
Speaker B
They do.
Host
Well, then they can try to take that one down too.
Speaker B
Nobody cares.
Speaker B
Your God, you disrael everything.
Host
Go ahead.
Host
I hate YouTube, just so you know.
Speaker B
I'm trying to promote your fucking show, you dipshit.
Host
Go to Twitch and Rumble.
Host
There you go.
Host
Go to Twitch and Rumble.
Host
Boomer bomb.
Speaker B
It fucking sucks watching on Rumble.
Speaker B
It fucking sucks.
Host
Hey, what can I tell you?
Speaker B
You can tell me what you do.
Host
I can't talk about.
Host
What I want to talk about.
Host
I can't talk about without getting.
Host
Without getting strikes.
Host
Fuck YouTube.
Host
Just telling you.
Speaker C
Are you on YouTube, though?
Duchess
Yes.
Speaker C
Now I am just asking if he's on YouTube.
Host
It's called the Boomer Bunker because Boomer Bunker got eviscerated.
Host
Because we were talking about the vaccine.
Speaker C
The boomer bunker.
Speaker C
On YouTube.
Host
On YouTube, right?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Duchess
Oh, my God.
Host
Beautiful.
Speaker B
All right, thank you guys for coming on.
Speaker B
Good luck.
Speaker B
Look forward to the show.
Speaker C
Good luck.
Speaker B
Jesus Christ.
Speaker C
Bye.
Speaker B
Bye.
Speaker B
Oh, fuck.